rvi

5y

didn't Ray himself love that song? but yeah its just decent to me and I can understand people hating it

cant wait until you meet Ray one day and accidentally let it slip that you think Kinks are psychedelic and he will slap you

rvi

5y

the kind of childlike nostalgia that is psychedelic to me is the Syd Barrett or July kind

Elric

5y

The lead guitar is on I'm Not Like Everybody Else is lysergic as f*** trust me

Its Dark Star in miniature

Elric

5y

Do you really think Syd would exist without Ray I've heard him acknowledge the Kinks influence

Elric

5y

If you don't think Dave was out there tripping balls man was 19 years old

Also I've seen a Ray show front row in a teeny club he saw me stanning, basically pals

rvi

5y

yeah he was

he was also f***ing dudes back then :datass:

genghiskharti

5y

the good bad and the ugly came out in 1966 and it's film score is incredible

Elric

5y

news to me :datass:

Just read a ray interview from that year where he says if he didn't find his wife Rasa he would be gay probably

rvi

5y

doesnt matter, doesnt mean the influencer is psychedelic

Syd wouldnt exist without blues either but that doesnt mean they were psychedelic

rvi

5y

just listened again and actually yeah tbh, i hear the psych in the guitar (tone) i didnt really realize before, different from a lot of those other kinks songs

Dark Star comparison just baiting me though

rvi

5y

yeah Dave a bisexual legend and apparently talked about it in his autobiography

Pete Townshend too but i think thats more well known since he made Rough Boys

Elric

5y

I'm saying Ray clearly invented that particular strain of psychedelia even if Syd and Lennon took it too way more psychedelic extremes

That whimsical lilting melody thing began with Well Respected Man

Elric

5y

Are we not going to acknowledge Rainy Day in June with its ominous rolling thunder intro then big clap on the chorus lyrics evoking a Tolkieneaque world of whimsical fantasy you think you would have had half the songs on Piper without this? I don't

Their particular brand of oooh la la la harmonies hit me as the yin to The Yardbirds gregorian chant yang and hit so when you're smoked out which counts as psych

rvi

5y

invented the brit whimsy yes but if well respected man is psychedelic, literally every british pop/rock song from 1965-1969ish is psychedelic if you squint hard enough by your apparent standards

Elric

5y

Didn't know that about Pete either but that explains some lyrics

Elric

5y

in not saying its psych but thats when Ray found that a new delivery that was even more potent than You Really Got Me which he developed into these '66 stunners and definitely influenced Syd

rvi

5y

"Tough boys
Come over here
I wanna bite and kiss you"

Elric

5y

Not sure what song you're talking about and Ringo saying Boys in 1963 but I didn't take him literally

Elric

5y

Did you ever hear this neglected trailblazer?

"John Peel introduced the song with the comment, "This is to my mind the best popular record that's ever been recorded"

Elric

5y

HM to Johanna

Elric

5y

ok some proper Beefheart footage crazy to think how hard these guys were about to zenith the next year

rvi

5y

i feel you on the inconsistency, Revolver is one of those masterpieces with a few tracks below the rest for me too. still pretty much tied with Revolver for #2

Got to Get You Into My Life is amazing though and i thought you liked doctor robert. For No One is great but never a masterpieces for me, but Here There and Everywhere still always hits. i actually used to despise Yellow Submarine and thought it was a huge blemish but I don't mind it now, i like basically all of it except the chorus

Eleanor Rigby the real overrated one on there

Elric

5y

Are we not going to acknowledge Rainy Day in June with its ominous rolling thunder intro then big clap on the chorus lyrics evoking a Tolkieneaque world of whimsical fantasy you think you would have had half the songs on Piper without this? I don't

Their particular brand of oooh la la la harmonies hit me as the yin to The Yardbirds gregorian chant yang and hit so when you're smoked out which counts as psych

Atlienz

5y

yea this is fire. is this a Nugget?