Literally the worst label in the game. Them and 300

Aftermath

OVO vs Dreamville Stan war

Party makes his bread writing for others and he seems very content with that and I don’t blame him. He gettin the bag gifting songs to riri and drake

I think the roster's best work is when they are influencing or using their talents or on a Drake album, and the label itself isn't a big presence when it comes to the artists' solo work anyway.

is "shadowquoting" when someone replies to a post that you deleted? cause i saw you snatch it back before my very eyes

dudes literally did it himself

dudes weird

You gotta have an ear for talent. A lot of artists are not self aware enough to hear something and help them build a career.

Thats why very few people can actually do it effectively

cool. from your "i think", we agree that the quality of their solo work vs their work for/with drake is a subjective opinion.

now what's your metric for "big presence?" album sales? streaming service listeners? social media platform popularity? everyone has their own way of determining it so i'm curious.

Lloyd Banks - 433k fw in 2004, 140k fw in 2006. On Fire, Karma, Beamer Benz or Bentley 2004-2010.
Young Buck - 360k fw in 2004, 140k in 2007. Five top 40 appearances from 03-06.
Game speaks for himself. Tony Yayo did 200k first week and went platinum. Lil Scrappy got a hit.

How many labels have 6 artists having hits and selling records over a 7 year period? They only dominated from 03-05, but they continued having successes until 2010.

Well it would be weird if I said "objectively" lol

Presence to me is how much commercial/critical success something has. Albums can have little presence when outlets/blogs are discussing best albums of the year but be amongst the best sellers of the time (ex: Hollywoods Bleeding) or lots of buzz on blogs and s*** but chart very low (ex: Pray For Paris)

well we're on ktt, people like to think they speak objectively. just pointing out the difference between you and them.

do those other things i mentioned come into play at all for you? what about tour performance? opportunities within the industry? the basic ability to work and put out solo material period? if we're looking at success as a whole i think there are a lot of factors that can be taken into account.

I swear anytime niggas talk about OVO all I see is DJ Akademiks Youtube comment tier posts

We still running with the “they give all their best stuff to Drake” narrative like 5 years later

They havent created one big act.

Party is the closest and he barely goes Gold

it be so unwarranted too. i'm always tryna figure out how the playing field switches up when it comes to them. it's interesting.

Only two artist popping

GOODmusic
mmg
young money
YSL
g-unit
grand hustle/hustle gang
4PF (pending)

you can also kinda count

no limit
roc a fella
cash money

but they were different bc they weren't an established artist's label

I wasn’t even talking about dreamville or ops opinion you loser