So there’s no reason to assume Sean started it unless you’re a stan. From what we know Ye started it

that sucks

Project is a good effort from him which is what matters. Again, he absolutely fumbled this rollout to the point where virtually nobody knew when it was coming out. I don’t understand how he put all this work in getting physicals ready, lining up merch, but then having trouble clearing samples and pushing it back. I think with a proper rollout it probably would’ve doubled what it did

I just don't think Sean and his team actually cared about 1st week sales.

If they did, then this is a bizarre, bizarre rollout.

I guessed under 50K, so this wasn't out of the realm of possibility for me.

The album itself is technically sound, but almost purposefully devoid of the typical Sean highs. No slaps, no hitmaka and his stock hooks, no Jhene feature, a really lowkey, low maintenance album which is why it almost feels like he threw in the towel when it came to first week sales on this.

1st Week sales literally don't matter though, but that's a convo for another time.

wym

This s*** is terrible

I’d agree with you but him slashing the vinyls led me to believe they knew the numbers weren’t great. I mean they’re literally selling them at a loss which you’d see with someone like Trav but was kinda surprising from Big Sean especially with all the effort they put in on the merch

Sales in music, especially rap music, is never about how good the product is.

Sales are in fact a product of the moment, the spectacle, and the momentum surrounding the project.

With that said, I can't imagine that Sean's team thought that this was going to do numbers given what the project is.

He barely cracked 100K 4 years ago w/D2 and only 30K of those were pure sales. The consumer's habits have only been exacerbated since then.

No one buys anything and everyone streams and when you conceptualize how many streams it takes for a single sale, 25K 1st week honestly sounds about right for Sean give or take.

same

Tbf there were a couple days of 2009 left after b****** dropped before the 2010s hit

buddy pushed his album back 5 times just to go triple styrofoam

i would say it's because he took four years off, but Q took five years off and managed to sell 34k with a way less mainstream album than crasH talk. so yeah i guess hip-hop collectively realized as a genre that it didn't really need sean after he was gone for so many years.

Man that was corny

Agreed but also circumstances around him dropping were just inconvenient. Can’t imagine him dropping this closer to the beef era

Sales arent good but it's not like he did yg numbers

Eh, that’s probably more than I could do.

Props ! Lol

Hope it doesn’t get him down but man he should’ve rode that Detroit wave for a comeback instead of now

Makes sense

Detroit 2 was pretty decent tho

Excessive d***riding

When streaming became the main way to consume music, I want to know who decided 1500 streams count as a sale and what was their reasoning behind this. Such a high but specific number.

Did they really just want to sabotage hip-hop cause they know most of that music lives online anyway and just give people more incentive to stream instead of buy. Seriously it seems like high-budget hip-hop artists are struggling to even get 50k atp. Regardless of what we think of big sean this is just a bad look for hip-hop in general.

I get that not everyone is travis scott or drake but is the drop off in sales between them and other artist being this drastic even a good thing for the genre? My prediction is budgets are gonna get way smaller for hip-hop and bullshit mtv pop music is gonna dominate once again.

good album owell

broke niggas find this the funniest