"when they question something they read people immediately go on attack, and how is this practically applied outside of the internet? "

Local book clubs that legit offer a***ysis and room for healthy critique. I'm in New York City. It's tons of them here so I'm confused at what you even talking bout with that one. I was in one before I left cause the shawty that ran it was kind of a police sympathizer cause she got family that's 12 but hey it is what it is.

"You're just naive or confused if you think people are actually out here organizing appropriately and if you deny echo chambers existing and the majority of Black people being excluded from them."

Oh, I'm sorry? I didn't think you missed a whole f***ing summer of organizing and protests throughout the entire countr...fuck that, the whole entire world when George Floyd died.

Exclusion does happen but that's why there's things like #nmos14, where you can reach out to people in unaccessible neighborhoods. Provide transportation, get people to and from. All the protests/vigils I been to last year it was a point made to make sure every black woman/non-man there got back home safely before most the men left. You talkin bout exclusion, niggas been tryna remedy that. That's why the organizations born out of these Asian/Black coalitions this year (that media have been ignoring for...some odd reason) are important for that reason.

I don't care what FeministaJones "does" when she spews similarly harmful antiblack rhetoric. We not doing that, we not gonna sit here calling out intracommunal issues and bird box the absolute nonsense she promotes. Stop it.

Noname is doing her thing, but again this is really not addressing my original post lmao I was only talking about why Umar gets the attention he does and the spotlight he does because he knows how to communicate with his audience, which can't be said for all the people in similar spaces as him.

These people don't know how to talk to Black people that are the majority. Umar stating his has a PhD in Psychology doesn't make me, a high school dropout autodidect feel as though I'm being talked down to even though he's largely ahistorical and harmful himself.

"I don't care what FeministaJones "does" when she spews similarly harmful antiblack rhetoric. We not doing that, we not gonna sit here calling out intracommunal issues and bird box the absolute nonsense she promotes. Stop it."

Then b****, stop giving props to Umar.

You legit deadass can't say this and then follow it up with bigging up the same nigga that talks down to black women/feminists and lgbtqIa+ black people all the time the same sentence.

Why are you calling me a b****?

Get the f*** out of my thread.

Arguing about harm done against Black women then calling me a b****. Exactly the kind of Black people I'm talking about.

Is Cornel West the only black activist worth listening to? I've only read his book on education(forgot the name) but it was really good

Umar knows how to make a spectacle of himself and create views with his extremist ways of talking. Him and Kevin Samuels are the same nigga. They both know if they dialed it down and talked like rational people they wouldn't garner all the views they get.

@Nightmares I'm from the south. B**** has been gender neutral to me since the day I was born. but I apologize.

I don't apologize for saying you tripping trying to down Feminista Jones WHILE bigging up Umar for doing practically the same thing. At LEAST (and yeah, she be having some hot takes I don't follow) I can say, hey, she actually did something for us lol.

You're literally justifying and enabling 2 of the most toxic niggas towards women in the "black empowerment" movement. You don't get to play that card with me lol.

Hope you giving this same energy to that Poignant nigga tho.

Has anybody actually confronted Umar about the school s***? I feel like every interviewer doesn't go hard on him.

He either dances around it or mentions the need for funding/donations lol.

The only reason he's even been back in the mainstream is because of meme culture and the pandemic leaving niggas open to being lured by grifters. After the initial school controversy it was quiet for him for a minute. I swear that "no context Dr Umar" page is just a burner account of his.

He wants people to give 3 weeks of free labor and says the school will be open.

I don't trust him and don't think people should be donating money to him.

At a certain point people have to realize he's a grifter

LMAO at free labor.
Its gonna take a s***ton of money to keep the place open and pay the teachers.

He's on ignore and you can join him. I'm not enabling Umar or Tariq, all I said was they talk in a recognizable way for most Black people and they will always have a larger audience than echo chamber niggas because of that alone. That's not "props" that's called an observation.

You was in here talking about "the black. Community" needing re-education for homophobia to make things safer for BLACK LGBTQIA (lmfao I'm Queer) but you can't control calling Black women b****es. Sounds like you need the re-education you telling other niggas to get.

I don't have any reason to believe you not a misogynoirist piece of s***, so I can play any card I want. Watch who the f*** you calling a b****. Poignant ain't call me a b**** though with his ignorant ass, you did.

We got a "waiting for superman" complex that long needs to die out. We're our own biggest activists/leaders ultimately. We gotta keep this s*** horizontal and not create some hierarchy that inevitably keeps minorities within a minority on the bottom of that b****, y'know what I mean?

I get angry over Umar cause there was a good 1-2 year stretch I really was looking up to this nigga. Loooooong ago, there's pics of a couple of us undergrads going to see Hidden Colors 2 in the city.

So my Umar criticism aint out of nowhere lol.

I don't think he's even posted pics of the space, any other people involved, nothing.

I don't even think it exists. Everything about the process has been shady an unprofessional.

Brothers please, calm yourselves. Its a nice Saturday morning

Good looks.

Admittedly, I’m ignorant to a lot of African literature outside of Nigeria so I gotta delve deeper into it.

Recently finished reading this one, recommended to you will post in thread too

Eh, I'm unlearning and re-educating a lot of old misogynist s*** day by day but my usage of 'bitch' on an online forum is not how you should gage that lol. Trust me, I got old interactions from undergrad that'll show that better than me getting mad at you saying things I legit just can't agree with in any point in life lol.

I mean bruh, especially with the amount of times I called men b**** in this sxn or the music sxn alone?

But hey, you do what you gotta do. All I'm saying is shawty says all this problematic s*** and at least you can say, "Hey, there's something that she did."

Umar can be the same nigga that he is today. Harmful rhetoric and all, if he ever had gotten that school done. I'd have nothing to say about him, that's on EVERYTHING. That's why I'm careful about my Killer Mike critique (from my hometown, I aint really feel him cryin on tv criticizing our black rage when he had RTJ lyrics telling us to burn s*** down, and his pops a cop. So I'm always skeptical of him) because I can say, hey, at least this nigga is tbf, actually trying to do s*** in Atlanta.

We need more postive vibes ITT, too much arguing and negativity.

When he dropped rtj4 rapping about killing cops and starting a revolution and then I see him on tv crying and telling people to vote I was like Like i get not wanting your hood to be burned down but I was hella disappointed. He's done a lot more than Umar though so who am I to judge him

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Y'all right.

Yep, something I realized is that all niggas do is argue with each other. You find a majority black space online, offline all niggas do is get to arguing everything ends in the same way. Like damn where all this animosity come from? No wonder you got so many young black folk out here walking around angry at the world and feel the world is out to get them..(even tho in many cases it is..you shouldn’t let that effect your psyche, cause that’s what they want)

Everybody has a different idea about what to do to save us. And instead of talking and figuring out who is closest to the truth we just assume the worst and start arguing. It's exhausting.