Yup. And those Merikins are mashin up di avenue this carnival season as we speak

Outside of this conversation, Anti blackness is the way to assimilate to any western nation. Shouldn’t be surprise that far right ideology is thriving there in the EU or here

e-flux.com/journal/87/169402/notes-on-blacceleration

Convenient ain’t it

American Imperialism at work.

We know what that’s about.

Im starting to realize FBA is basically becoming the black version of zionism. If your familiar with the Zionist movement it was only popular amongst the bourgeoisie section of the jews because it was extremely classist and reactionary. Im seeing the same here with it mostly being adopted amongst classist black people

interesting in theory, has some points and has a understandable reaction to the century long black non americans looking down on american in person and in story

but its far too extreme - instead of just proping up, reclaiming and educating + bein of the very unique n seperate black american experience - its yet turned into another way to divide and poison, even ironically to other certain kinds of black americans

it is once again a "proud" movement devolving into superiorty complexes, stubborness and isolationism

i do not agree with the other extreme side neither tho

that black americans should fully "give up" on america n our american identity

something no one will understand why this is dumb as well without massive historical AND SOCIAL knowledge context, or if you arent a black american born

i think it is mainly an online thing

or, like, one of them views/opinions that really only ever get shared n travels online

dawg I had a homie who could go IN for HOURS about being black in America, the history, different aspects of life today and in the past, he was one of those type of niggas, and I loved the conversations

never ONCE did he bring up being FBA lmaooo nigga just loved being black and talking about the history. this s*** blows me bruh cause it places the conversation in a place where it’s like “dawg, no one’s saying you can’t get that too” when we deadass just tryna come together overall, remember our history and pass on these oral traditions that luckily we can write down today

i think theres a decent portion of a "blackpill" type of deseperate n scared emtional response of some black people freaking out when they learn some africans "sold black people into slavery" kinds of things that makes them dissonant

part of the bigger general internet phenomenom of the "blackpill" of why for some reason this decade younger generations (and even ours of millenials to a degree) take a massive psychological hit from learning negative, contrary, dissenting or get their expectations kind of knowledge

s***s weird and creating radical groups by the dozens over nothing - would love to know a study on the root behind this trend

Same, and I'm like that too, I know a lot of American centric history and revolving around sociology and anthropologic type things n especially black - my father n especially grandparents taught it to me and bay schools one of the few places in USA where they actually teach a decent amount of black history and have field trips to the museums n s*** s/o black panther party efforts, then I learned a lot on my own n through others to this day since forever

But it was never a separation, if anything, black people that would talk about non American blacks hating on black americans would always be a thing like "why can't we also be them" in the few instances - wanting to join not seperate

Idk, maybe the pendulum just flew so far in the other direction that's been planting seeds, or it's just internet s*** taking s*** out of context and "too personal"

xenophobia growing in African countries over the last 2 decades heavily didn’t help either as immigrants migrated stateside so there is definitely a lot going on that is fighting the conversation right now and they love it

Jesus Christ. You don’t think that’s extreme lmao. ZIONISM????

Y’all say s*** like that I’m supposed to take that serious

As wild as some of the leaders x tenants of FBA, comparing them to zionists is just some self hate s*** full stop. I will not be engaging with any of that.

“Black American culture is not separate from the diaspora. It is a diasporic culture formed under the specific conditions of racialized displacement in the US. The absence of a single geographic reference point does not mean the absence of culture.“

It gets to a point where this is nutty ass backlash to a couple people deciding to identify themselves

How is it anything like Zionism?

Far right talking points

Literally what FBA does lol

Ehh just telling you straight forward any nigga that is pushing “Africans sold us into slavery” in reference to the transatlantic slave trade is bootlicking, or doesn’t really understand the transatlantic slave trade.

I really hate how yall act like everyone in the Diaspora apart from “FBA” themselves, engages in belittling, mocking, and trashing other groups within the diaspora. As if everyone in the diaspora comes together collectively to s*** on Black Americans. That is textbook main character syndrome. Which is a symptom of American Exceptionalism.

As if everyone in the diaspora comes together collectively to s*** on Black Americans

I mean

I don’t view it as main character syndrome or American exceptionalism. It’s just that the US in general is one of the most hated countries globally and that extends to black Americans too

It seems people who support FBA tend to be the farther right and more classist section of black people. The main leader being tariq nasheed whose rhetoric has become indistinguishable from a white trump supporter. You cant separate the classist nature from the online FBA rhetoric when its all a bunch of “Africans are poor so we dont like africans and we dont want to be them”
Zionism started in russia as a far right movement rejected by most working class jews but being artificially propped up by the Europeans who controlled their society
@TUNDRAIV