ithaka

4y

well in 97 they did dude ranch total punk rock album with very raw sound and songs then they went big and did hits and got a far more produced sounds and songs were more tight and hooks through enema to take off just hooks and hooks while enema still had the fun take off starts bringing more angsty to it, tom really perfected the game and brought pop punk to the throne at that time everyone started copying (mark songs and does songs but he mostly just does the same stuff)

then after that in 2002 only a year after take off while everyone else who’s slow or late would still suck off of that (for example avril lavigne that u mentioned, dropped in 2002) tom did a side project that included travs but not mark (which created some tension altho mark is featured on one of the songs) and did a very angsty full on album way more aggressive and serious that he thought wouldnt go in for blink - needed to find himself more

and it was a hit and in 2003 back with blink they did a new album that again was nothing like the last blink or the box car altho it took elements from tom took from it, the self titled is a combination of so much, some pure blink but more experimental mature technics and sounds, still upbeat, it’s more subtle, had some spoken interlude, some hip hop instrumental interlude, some synths there, some more piano, some new concepts etc

no one did it like this

then they broke up, and tom formed this band called angels and airwaves and in 2007 did the debut album and again it was a restart of all we knew from him, heavily dived into u2 style guitars and spacey synths, like nothing you could sell to a blink fan who got hooked on take off your pants although they’re such tom infectious and simple hooks still , a signature of a real talent that knows to find himself and progress through sounds while still having his dna

but blink are popularized for joke stuff and tom being conspiracy alien dude and everyone overlooks that progression in such short run right there through 4 albums that is super fast and amazing, not one album wasted each brought and did something new

then they reformed without tom and phoned in hard the retro callbacks 😑😑

DonutHole

4y

Why do you think people overlook them then?
How many joke songs do they have for people to fixate on that?
Is pop punk a respected genre at all?

Eyesonthesmile

4y

I will update op as much as possible.

ithaka

4y

i think it’s better to make a simple aesthetic presentation as the starting point

Eyesonthesmile

4y

This is true. Maybe I should take it out an some stuff.

ithaka

4y

ppl just over simplify music to feel better about themselves and fill insecurity as if there isn’t more to it

weezer gets that

beach boys gets that

blink gets that

whitney gets that

they have enough that are popular to be associated and summed up as it is, when they did it no one made it like that on that scale so it blew up

pop punk or punk rock more so has a following but it’s not respected through current critics communities like the website you rate stuff on, these people are busy jacking off to can, etc

as long blink will be all catchy sugary and funny but not weird, they’ll never be revalued by these ppl

ithaka

4y

been wanting to make it but didn’t wanna keep to check on their new stuff lol

Eyesonthesmile

4y

@vanity getting shoutout in op for help with that logo idea.

DonutHole

4y

Whitney gets alot of praise I wouldn't put her on the same level as Weezer etc.
The most disrespect Whitney gets is for the d*** usage but even that isn't as bad acceptable as it once was

Ie: Daytona album cover controversy

The problem is when people have opinions on s*** they don't listen to imo

Do you think that most people who have those opinions listen to the bands or not? (idk I'm not in those convos but you seem to have been through many back and forths with 4chan/rym type people)

ithaka

4y

ppl just over simplify music to feel better about themselves and fill insecurity as if there isn’t more to it

weezer gets that

beach boys gets that

blink gets that

whitney gets that

they have enough that are popular to be associated and summed up as it is, when they did it no one made it like that on that scale so it blew up

pop punk or punk rock more so has a following but it’s not respected through current critics communities like the website you rate stuff on, these people are busy jacking off to can, etc

as long blink will be all catchy sugary and funny but not weird, they’ll never be revalued by these ppl

ithaka

4y

i think it’s better to make a simple aesthetic presentation as the starting point

DonutHole

4y

Also who or what is "can"?

And yeah people tend to discredit artists that make "safe" pop music (sugary, funny, etc)

Eyesonthesmile

4y

How does it look at the moment.? I’ll keep updating as much as possible

ithaka

4y

ill try cook something up if you want

imdoinf

4y

@Bad_Finger_Boogie gonna need your consensus on this 👀

ithaka

4y

whitney gets praised but you never see her in any talk of any of her albums on ktt or in any list ever is my point- weezer gets praise too

absolutely not lot of ppl who hate on weezer refuse to listen post pinkerton and are bided by what a community spreads