I'm not talking about songwriting abilities or overall musicianship or whatever. I'm talking about in terms of pure technical vocal skill, brent faiyaz is MUCH better and way more soulful than Frank.

Tbh in my humble opinion Frank is the MOST overrated artist of our time but ill let that slide for the sake of getting honest answers on this thread.

What yall think? Is Faiyaz the better SINGER? Lmk.

A lot of people technically sing better than Frank, but their artistry doesn't compare and that's what it's all about.

Idk about Brent tho

I see nothing wrong here OP

Lot of ppl sing better than bob dylan. He’s still bob dylan.

okay but what do you think is the most important aspect of singing? your technical skill as a singer or "artistry"?

and thats such a vague statement, please define what you mean exactly by "artistry"?

not trynna instigate im genuinely wondering bro.

yeah but bob dylan had serious political/social commentary in his lyrics and i dont think frank oceans lyricism is on that level tbh. and bob dylan influenced an entire wave of folk/country musicians and we havent seen how big franks influence is yet imo.

I like Brent but idk about this OP. I feel like y’all downplay Frank a little too much sometimes, the man can sing his ass off. I’m by no means saying Frank is a league above Brent but imo I think Frank is the superior singer

Singer in terms of technical skill or overall songwriting and everything?

The distinction is important tbh

Yes cos frank is not really a good singer

THANK YOU!

i didnt want to say this in my OP but frank is honestly just an average singer thats elevated by his cult following, his aura of mysteriousness by being so private relative to how big of an artist he is, his sexuality, and his top notch lyricism.

Both. But again like I said it’s not like Frank is miles ahead of Brent

His themes, sound, writing, aesthetic, etc are far more original and cutting edge than Brent's.

Also personally I think that his voice is nicer, like damn this dude is not the most skilled singer but that singing voice is beautiful.

Brent is underrated for sure

Frank's a good singer?

What’s the use of being a great singer if your songwriting is subpar. Obviously frank is not the most technically outstanding singer but he makes up for it with his incredible songwriting, delivery, themes, albums, emotions.

Some people don’t/didn’t consider Stevie as a great singer compared to other classically trained vocalists but he made up for it in his artistry.

Bullshit. Bob was vague and shook of saying anything with conviction for fear of creating controversy, which he never did.

Frank is more poetic than Bob and can also make story telling music without tip toeing around its politics like a b****.

I think you're missing the point that Frank is a complete package type of guy. He's a better songwriter and he experiments with sounds and allat s***. Brent Faiyaz has an amazing voice but can you honestly tell me he makes better albums/writes better songs than Fronk?

I've never seen anyone s*** on Bob's legacy openly like you did

Lmao word my g sniped his ass

I feel like he’s better technically too but idk yet

Frank’s tone is just amazing

Because my respect for bob comes from actually listening to his music and not creating an opinion based off his reputation like OP

OP think a rapper is good based off technical ability. Dude got no soul or sense of nuance.

You and the user @Andre could be friends

Someone needs to make a thread on why they feel that Frank isn’t that great of a singer and what exactly makes him not that great of a singer, because I’ve only ever seen or heard that claim be made on KTT (now on KTT2) and it blows my mind every time I see it

I get Frank's not the most flexible vocalist out there, but how the F*** is Brent Faiyaz any better

F*** with him, but c'mon now lmao