Well, let me just make sure I'm not in a red state by the time the democrat party burns so at the very least I won't be totally screwed.

because your comment is just fundamentally untrue. he's a silicon valley wanna be tech bro masquerading as a progressive

but you are right, the so called social democrats are not good.

Ro khanna isn’t a progressive liberal

Im not sure that’s a thing..

He’s a social democrat. A center-leftist

In December 2017, Khanna criticized President Trump's decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, saying, "The United States and Israel share similar values of peace, democracy, and entrepreneurship. We should always look for ways to strengthen the relationship and address Israel’s legitimate security concerns. The President’s decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, however, is misguided and does not advance peace."

Yea man he just endorsed bernie for the masquerade

Has been one of his biggest surrogates for the masquerade

Has just supported every major welfare state expansion policy coming from that wing of US politics for the masquerade

if you're supporting the existence of israel you're not left in any way.

the last real social democrat in a position of power was Olof Palme

As of October 2021, Khanna had voted in line with Joe Biden's stated position 100% of the time.

Idk how middling view on israel makes him corporate

He can still be a Center leftist and have a “view” like that

That’s like half of the people in the canadian New Democratic party or uk labour party

Doesn’t make them non social Democrats. And doesn’t even apply to our discussion of US economic policy which he’s excellent on

Even his other foreign policy views have been good, specifically on yemen and saudi arabia

easy to support things when you know they wont pass lol

khanna.house.gov/media/in-the-news/forget-politicians-us-lawmaker-thinks-high-tech-can-bring-israelis-and

guy is a clown.

Now do bernie

not a fan of bernie once again, these people exist within a larger political machine for which they'll happily give up ideals to keep the machine oiled

I have a level for respect for them but I place no sort of responsibility upon them to improve this country because they won't do it

Yea bro

Israel will definitely get dissolved bro

It’ll happen anytime soon.

And anyone that doesn’t support that despite being empathic, caring people who support human welfare is automatically a fraud

What an absurd position

israel must be dissolved, and you're twisting my words on the second. Anyone who supports israel is not left of the aisle. I dont care for personal morals, I care for application

Figures like Bernie and khanna will 100% improve the country if they had the levers what a crazy position

Bro what’s your end goal? You’re essentially saying social democracy is a “wash”

Again your staunch view on israel doesn’t negate everything else lol

I am a Marxist Leninist. Infer from there

they will never have power lol

Most social Democrats do not “support” israel

Bernie definitely doesn’t and I wouldn’t say i do either but by drawing your line towards such a politically and impractical endpoint muddles everything else

that is not the line in itself, but the support of a colonial apartheid state is an indication of a much larger set of ideals and allegiances which i am wholeheartedly against.

use nuance.

There are currently social Democrats in power provincially in Canada

Federally they are in unofficial collision basically with the liberals

It’s possible

Who did u vote for in the primaries last year

didnt vote, I spent the day working at a kitchen for the homeless in sac with Sac Red Meals

But your dancing around with the word “support”

Before this conversation there’s no standard where a person would say i support israel. I am anti settlement and pro palestine

But thinking that believing the state of israel should be dissolved is just a straight up intellectually weak idea

That’s like seeing what was happening in South Africa in the 90s and saying instead of increased democracy and rights and transition towards inclusivity let’s just dissolve the whole south african state itself

what a great transition South Africa had!

its intellectually strong to support the transition of a colonial apartheid state into a representative democracy while doing nothing to address the economic damage caused by apartheid almost like the capitalist system allows for people at the top to entrench themselves regardless of form of government and the entire system must be dismantled and rebuilt around a redistribution of wealth

wya @Maartins