(A PRETENTIOUS) FILM SXN CHAT THREAD

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  • Feb 16, 2022
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    Drogon

    i've watched it twice (don't ask me why). 8 hours or so of my life watching Bob strung out on whatever in a directionless, unfocused, bloated mess of a film. Although the performance footage from the Rolling Thunder shows are phenomenal as you would expect.

    I don't see how you find so many films "pretentious" but you're this down with Bob Phantom Thread is like the side 2 of Bringing It All Back Home of cinema

  • Feb 16, 2022
    FlyHiii

    I don't d***ride The Godfather like almost every film head does but calling it schlock? You're joking right?


    Ig I should’ve put an /s

  • Feb 16, 2022
    Drogon

    And I thought my takes were bad

    Maybe they are lets hear em

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    Drogon

    And I thought my takes were bad

    Now u needa drop some takes

    let us decide

  • Feb 16, 2022
    HaroldsChicken

    Hateful 8 was mainly good theater watch for me

    Extended version > roadshow version

    You’re missing out

  • Feb 16, 2022
    Everest

    I actually never seen it but it’s next up and I’m very excited

    Watch the extended version first tbh

  • Feb 16, 2022
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    Drogon

    Tree Of Life is just Enter The Void for cushy, middle-class quarter life crisis types if we're keeping it a buck

    I don’t think you understood Enter the Void at all

  • Feb 16, 2022
    internet buddy

    I don’t think you understood Enter the Void at all

    He's partly right, there's some overlap in themes and they do share that same ambition to portray something larger than life but yeah execution is wayyyy different and they are polar opposites even in their shared themes

    Where ToL is about the acceptence of death (to me), Enter The Void feels like it's about someone who does everything but that

  • Feb 16, 2022
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    FlyHiii

    Even more so when he does interviews or w/e

    Hollywood was very clearly a man vicariously reliving his childhood. There are some decent ideas in there about masculinity being tied to westerns but he was thoroughly uninterested in developing them

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    3:30

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    internet buddy

    Hollywood was very clearly a man vicariously reliving his childhood. There are some decent ideas in there about masculinity being tied to westerns but he was thoroughly uninterested in developing them

    Well, isn't that pretty much all of QTs films? lol

    I wouldn't have found it to be such a negative if there weren't so many plotlines to begin with. The hangout movie vibe totally was working for him, wish he just rolled with that primarily and fully embraced it

    Still a great film, but Leo & Brad Pitt carried tbh, whereas in a lot of his other stuff it's clear that QT is at the forefront of the greatness even if the cast delivers just as stellar performances

  • Feb 16, 2022
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    FlyHiii

    Well, isn't that pretty much all of QTs films? lol

    I wouldn't have found it to be such a negative if there weren't so many plotlines to begin with. The hangout movie vibe totally was working for him, wish he just rolled with that primarily and fully embraced it

    Still a great film, but Leo & Brad Pitt carried tbh, whereas in a lot of his other stuff it's clear that QT is at the forefront of the greatness even if the cast delivers just as stellar performances

    How does that apply to Dogs, Kill Bill, or Django?

  • Feb 16, 2022

    Watched Memories of the Murder
    It's so good

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    FlyHiii

    Now u needa drop some takes

    let us decide

    Let's see.. here ya go

    Everyone in Tarantinoverse speaks like the man himself. Sure it's entertaining for the first couple of films for the film you see, but the novelty wears off pretty quickly. The weird gratuitous cameo with the weird accent should of been the point where someone should of stepped in and yelled "Stop!". For me the best movie he's done is Jackie Brown mainly because it's adapted from soembody else, and thus the characters feel like they are actual fleshed out individuals and not just a shard of Quentin's personality.

    Godfather Part III is a good, well-made film. If it wasn't attached to the previous two films I feel that it would have been better received, and it's starting to get a bit of a following amongst Internet filmheads which is nice to see.

    Return Of The Jedi is kinda flawed. After we deal with the fallout falling ESB we're left with Han, Leia, R2, and 3PO on a forest planet playing around with ewoks and fighting incompetent troopers, Lando in the falcon doing a redo of ANP, and Luke reaches an anticlimactic face off with Palpatine. S*** is mid outside of the first 40-45 minutes.

    Star Trek II: Wrath Of Khan really doesn't stand head and shoulders above the rest of the movies in the franchise (even though the Star Trek movies are notorious for being inconsistent). For me IV: The Voyage Home and First Contact are alot superior.

    Yesterday's (Danny Boyle Film) premise is utterly stupid and filled with so many plot holes it made the plot ludicrous. For me that really peed me off was the bit with ***SPOILER***
    John felt a bit exploitative and as a Beatles fans I thought it was utter dross. I like Danny Boyle movies but this was a miss for me.

    SnyderCut is only below Infinity War & Endgame when it compares to the other MCU offerings in my rankings. The scope, vision, artistic visuals, and overall story felt like a throwback to the huge Hollywood epics of the 50s/60s.

    Inland Empire is where Lynch got far too stuck up his own a****** and I felt it jumped the shark even for Dave's standards. I love his previous work and Twin Peaks of course.

    Whilst we're on the topic of Lynch, Fire Walk With Me is a personal favourite of mine. Sheryl Lee knocked it out of the stratosphere with that performance, and 'The Pink Room' is a killer of a track. I feel that the movie allows enough for it to work outside of TP and it's one of the best horror movies oat.

  • Feb 16, 2022
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    internet buddy

    How does that apply to Dogs, Kill Bill, or Django?

    ???????? How does it not

    Django is his play on the western genre

    Kill Bill is his play on all the Asian genre directors he took the sauce from like Miike

  • Feb 16, 2022
    internet buddy
    !https://youtu.be/2CeFllmCC9w

    3:30

    also big black dingus scene is peak cinema, peak comedy

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    Elric

    I don't see how you find so many films "pretentious" but you're this down with Bob Phantom Thread is like the side 2 of Bringing It All Back Home of cinema

    Hard Eight, The Master, Licorice Pizza, and Phantom Thread are the only films remaining of my PTA's watch list. I had a great time with Boogie Nights and TWBB, and not so much with his over offerings. Idk they didn't click with me.

    How is Phantom Thread comparable to the backend of BIABH? Because to me, despite the obivous quality of the album it felt Bob kinda compromised by making one half of the album acoustic to not totally alienate his fanbase.

    I don't really find Bob 'pretentious' and people who utter that complaint against him are filed in the same compartment as the people who say he can't sing. I understand people not being enthusiastic on his voice, but stating that he isn't able to sing just isn't remotely accurate.

  • Feb 16, 2022
    Drogon

    Let's see.. here ya go

    Everyone in Tarantinoverse speaks like the man himself. Sure it's entertaining for the first couple of films for the film you see, but the novelty wears off pretty quickly. The weird gratuitous cameo with the weird accent should of been the point where someone should of stepped in and yelled "Stop!". For me the best movie he's done is Jackie Brown mainly because it's adapted from soembody else, and thus the characters feel like they are actual fleshed out individuals and not just a shard of Quentin's personality.

    Godfather Part III is a good, well-made film. If it wasn't attached to the previous two films I feel that it would have been better received, and it's starting to get a bit of a following amongst Internet filmheads which is nice to see.

    Return Of The Jedi is kinda flawed. After we deal with the fallout falling ESB we're left with Han, Leia, R2, and 3PO on a forest planet playing around with ewoks and fighting incompetent troopers, Lando in the falcon doing a redo of ANP, and Luke reaches an anticlimactic face off with Palpatine. S*** is mid outside of the first 40-45 minutes.

    Star Trek II: Wrath Of Khan really doesn't stand head and shoulders above the rest of the movies in the franchise (even though the Star Trek movies are notorious for being inconsistent). For me IV: The Voyage Home and First Contact are alot superior.

    Yesterday's (Danny Boyle Film) premise is utterly stupid and filled with so many plot holes it made the plot ludicrous. For me that really peed me off was the bit with ***SPOILER***
    John felt a bit exploitative and as a Beatles fans I thought it was utter dross. I like Danny Boyle movies but this was a miss for me.

    SnyderCut is only below Infinity War & Endgame when it compares to the other MCU offerings in my rankings. The scope, vision, artistic visuals, and overall story felt like a throwback to the huge Hollywood epics of the 50s/60s.

    Inland Empire is where Lynch got far too stuck up his own a****** and I felt it jumped the shark even for Dave's standards. I love his previous work and Twin Peaks of course.

    Whilst we're on the topic of Lynch, Fire Walk With Me is a personal favourite of mine. Sheryl Lee knocked it out of the stratosphere with that performance, and 'The Pink Room' is a killer of a track. I feel that the movie allows enough for it to work outside of TP and it's one of the best horror movies oat.

    1 - I don't think anybody would disagree that every character in a QT film sounds like QT himself. I kinda feel you on the novelty wearing off but that's only apparant on multiple rewatches when you know the punchlines that are coming and in general the characters that he writes are still enjoyable personas. I really appreciate Jackie Brown too so you 1/1

    2 - Well yeah, i don't even see many people hating on the film like that. I feel like everybody realizes they came off 2 classics and the director has been stated on wax that he didn't plan to do a 3rd one which i feel like fuels a lot of the ''part 3 is garbage and nobody likes it'' narrative

    3 - I don't care about Star Wars

    4 - And i never will care about Star Wars either

    5 - Haven't seen that one but Danny Boyle in general is nothing special imo. Made a few cool movies though but nothing memorable to me personally

    6 - I don't watch superhero movies since i don't find enjoyment in superhero stuff that i have seen and i have no nostalgia for it or any sort of personal attachment

    7 - Nope, Inland Empire is great. It's flawed, not his best. But it's a necessary film in terms of his artistic growth, and it sort of embodies everything Lynchian stands for. I sometimes wonder when i read the Inland Empire critiques if the people saying that shouldn't be second guessing if they honestly love Lynch his work at all. I just opened the package containing a beautiful hardcover of all his paintings and they all feel like Inland Empire to me. Watch it again, at the right time. Partake in it, actively. Then get back to me

    8 - Yes, FWWM is top 3 Lynch features at LEAST. Amazing bridge between the OG TP & The Return

    There were barely any hot takes in here fam

  • Feb 16, 2022
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    @FlyHiii

    Perhaps these would have been considered controversial outside of a circle of cineheads, I kind of thought that these would be pretty mild amongst familiar company.

    On Danny Boyle I would recommend a movie of his called "Sunshine" if you haven't seen it. His take on the sci-fi genre was pretty cool.

    As far as Inland Empire is concerned, it just looked so aesthetically cheap compared to his previous outings and when you sandwich that with his unorthodox approach to storytelling it really tested my patience, and to be completely honest I don't I managed to complete it.

  • Feb 16, 2022
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    FlyHiii

    ???????? How does it not

    Django is his play on the western genre

    Kill Bill is his play on all the Asian genre directors he took the sauce from like Miike

    Completely missing my point. Hollywood doesn’t have a “plot” like those other films and has a lot of unnecessary nostalgia like ‘60s radio playing.

  • Feb 16, 2022
    Drogon

    @FlyHiii

    Perhaps these would have been considered controversial outside of a circle of cineheads, I kind of thought that these would be pretty mild amongst familiar company.

    On Danny Boyle I would recommend a movie of his called "Sunshine" if you haven't seen it. His take on the sci-fi genre was pretty cool.

    As far as Inland Empire is concerned, it just looked so aesthetically cheap compared to his previous outings and when you sandwich that with his unorthodox approach to storytelling it really tested my patience, and to be completely honest I don't I managed to complete it.

    I have seen Sunshine, although it's good.. it was kind of a letdown because i knew it was written by ALEX GARLAND who went on to make better films himself after that

    Sunshine was interesting until it turned into a slasher b-movie

    And yes, that's part of the charm for Inland Empire. The aesthetic totally fits with the atmosphere Lynch is known for. Have you seen Twin Peaks the Return? Cheap effects all over but it's really Lynch staple and does wonders to how unnerving some moments feel

    You really need to go in again when you ready for it and are actually able to fully finish it. So much to uncover in that film, and if you truly love his work, there's no way that you won't end up at least enjoying it more than the first time

    Some of the SCARIEST moments he ever made are on there, i won't spoiler it but i don't think you've made it to one of the most iconic moments engrained in every Lynch fan's brain

    I've managed to come up with my own theories after multiple viewings and it's the only puzzle besides The Return that has many mysteries in there that i haven't cracked so it's always fun to return to those for me I love the inclusion of the antramorphic rabbits from his short and that they actually play a huge part in the story

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    Drogon
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    Hard Eight, The Master, Licorice Pizza, and Phantom Thread are the only films remaining of my PTA's watch list. I had a great time with Boogie Nights and TWBB, and not so much with his over offerings. Idk they didn't click with me.

    How is Phantom Thread comparable to the backend of BIABH? Because to me, despite the obivous quality of the album it felt Bob kinda compromised by making one half of the album acoustic to not totally alienate his fanbase.

    I don't really find Bob 'pretentious' and people who utter that complaint against him are filed in the same compartment as the people who say he can't sing. I understand people not being enthusiastic on his voice, but stating that he isn't able to sing just isn't remotely accurate.

    Those songs would not sound better electric: Gates of Eden, Tambourine Man?

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    internet buddy

    Completely missing my point. Hollywood doesn’t have a “plot” like those other films and has a lot of unnecessary nostalgia like ‘60s radio playing.

    Lack of plot or not the fact is that ALL his movies are filled with him regurgitating his childhood memories lol

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    FlyHiii

    Lack of plot or not the fact is that ALL his movies are filled with him regurgitating his childhood memories lol

    Yet Hollywood is still that much worse because he threw away the idea of story pacing for pure nostalgia

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    internet buddy

    Those songs would not sound better electric: Gates of Eden, Tambourine Man?

    I concur. The Byrds's b******isation of Tambourine Man insults me as someone with active hearing.