Nigga plenty of hip hop classics came out the gate not selling s*** that's a poor argument. Especially when they are definitely impacting the hip hop culture my g.

No one's hearing that s*** yet the god mc Hov just signed them.

a "glorified 90s group" and that's why you are quadra wearing chucks fam. Cause that's such an oversimplification like niggas could definitely say TDE is just a "glorified Death Row."

and how in the HELL is TDE impacting the actual culture?

Kendrick got classics.

No label back on the day claimed they were the top label and didnt sell records. They just worked.
How are they impacting hip hop let’s hear it

Both serve a different purpose. Both GOAT

I like griselda just as much as anybody else but they still new. Let them accomplish some s*** before you compare them to TDE. Cant even compare them to dreamville yet. This is like saying zion is going to surpass lebron

crazy that JACKBOYS and AWGE the only labels with a classic label album while y’all talkin bout TDE and Griselda

lol

it sells out all the time, all limited edition though. resold on ebay a lot

All 2pac and Diddy did was big up their labels as the top labels, no one ever just worked.

And this is a different era and also TDE (and OVO, yall fanbases are one and the same) can't really claim itself the TOP label when only ONE rapper is the one who's selling the most.

the ACTUAL top labels had multiple cash cows.

But back to your original question, their sound. It's a restoring the feeling that along with their specific style of rapping that is like a breath of fresh air (because remember, niggas been tryna do that "90s type beat" thing for years in new york. Beast Coast was the last but that movement died with its leader and the other rappers decided to move away from that sound. and also most their bars were too fake deep and weird outside of joey and steez)

3 grimy niggas from Albany were on Jimmy Fallon and you telling me they have no impact in hip hop. You (or was it Fahim) said yourself Hov has clearly been listening to them/Mach Hommy (and he's apart of that cloth even tho their camps are beefing. This aint no shots so no hommy stans kill me for it) from the way he was rapping on jay's album. specific rap groups/collabs are definitely going to be more common place than they were a few years ago (cause there was a time it was uncool to have things like posse cuts and features because of big sean type insecure niggas)

and they merch game is fire, always selling out. Westside once he puts his ALL into that (cause he only started rapping because conway got shot) and not so much the rapping yall gon' see.

You talking to me about sales, Benny got a Drake feature my g.

since they just rap rap instead of make catchy songs that could be on hit stations or played in clubs or at parties not a chance.

they're really great pure hip hop but it's not the type of music everyone will listen to like some of tdes stuff

I’m not reading all of that We already went through this. You writing too much. 2 pac and Diddy were both selling records.

Griselda claim their the top and don’t compete in most metrics.

Sorry I’m not going formitn

I'm not reading all of that you typing too much

Aight quadra with chucks, good to know I won the argument.

Yo this entire thread is the reason I dont wanna hear any TDE stans make an artistic debate against Drake ever again my g.

So Control System isn’t pure hip hop? TPAB isn’t pure hip hop? Cilvia Demo isn’t pure hip hop?

son said TPAB and Cilvia Demo are pure hip hop my g.

tpab has a few songs that are very catchy stuff like "alright"

I have never heard any griselda song that had a really catchy chorus

I think anyone who thinks griselda could become the top label in rap is delusional unless they sign some more mainstream accessible artists.

I'm not knocking them at all because I love their music especially conway butttt I'm also logical

i agree. I think that is a lack of artistry though. Hov, Nas, etc all made hit songs. Even Currensy has some hit songs. Griselda lacks that it factor.

TDE, No. They work with the same producers outside of Daringer and Sadhugold, and that is Griselda's secret weapon. Plus Kendrick.

Dreamville, Yes. Lol dreamville .

Lmao thread too good

Tbf all 3 of the albums you named at least have few songs with crossover appeal, not tryna bring them down just saying. Even then number of classic hip hop albums have those type of songs anyway

exactlyyyyyy. to me they're dudes that can rap really well just like jadakiss or murs or whatever but they don't have any songs that are catchy or anything

True.

My son's arms are tired from moving the goalposts my g.

Looking for the cypher where niggas is passing the dutch and freestyling to These Walls or For Free

Whippey a TDE Intern

Nope