I’m saying for the sake of this argument who would it be. You can’t man universal and those labels because they are major. So who on an independent level is the top?

Lmao actually yes

Such a divers range of characters

Roc Nation or Universal

Universal is a major label that includes TDE.

Who is on roc Nation?

You talking bout big major labels, im talking about imprints. Of couse warner, universal, def jam are huge af.

Kendrick the only rapper on TDE doing major major s*** and he’s Aftermath too lol

Maybe when they stop rapping ober throwaway post recovery era eminem beats possibly

No. And TDE isn't the top label rn?

Who is?

Lol we already talked about this.
But they can't be the top, they haven't put out an album in a year and a half.

We can judge them by their next output. But Dreamville, QC doing more rn.

@ me when Westside Gunn drops Ctrl

Mach-Hommy + Fahim >>> Griselda

Mar 15 2019, Run Wild, Run Free (Zachary’s
April 26 2019, Crash Talk(School Boy Q)
August 30 2019 , Chasing Summer (SIR)
September 28,2018, There You Have It (Reason)

That’s four projects in those 18 months. If a few more months I can add some more.

Hmm I guess I was wrong. Totally forgot that Schoolboy put out an album.

Jay Rock won a Grammy cus of Kendrick so it’s kinda backwards to use that as an example but also say “I can make this same argument without Kendrick”

Those albums you named are no more better then Westside s*** or Bennys or Conways. Honestly the only albums I would say is above is Kendrick’s. Zay s*** and CTRL come in a close second tho.

Honestly the only thing this comes down to is Grammy nominations and more sales/billboard hits. Because I can’t argue against numbers. The rest is subjective.

As an overall artist I don’t think any of Griselda is touching Kenny (even tho purely RAP wise I f*** wit Griselda lyrically more) but besides Kendrick music wise I like Zay s*** equally with Grisdela. And I like Griselda way more than the rest of TDE after that.

I’m not including SZA just cus I personally can’t compare rappers (Griselda) to an RNB singer.

Clearly I said they Straight up rap better than Kendrick but Kendrick makes Better music, that’s due to him having better production, being more diverse, etc. ....its like I’m speaking English but you not following.

Q Grammy nominations are without Kendrick. That’s still a dub for TDE

Q also have a platinum album and multiple platinum singles that do include Kendrick. You would have to subtract so much to have Griselda win this head to head.

I just said I can’t argue against the Grammy nominations and hits because numbers don’t lie. Again you not following bro.

Hype through the roof atm for them but chill brah

they just signed Boldy James and somebody else

I disagree with the straight up rapping part. They all rap about the same thing and do in a fairly similar way. Rapping includes flow, subject matter and content, word play, delivery etc. I don’t think they do that better than TDE

A platinum album isn’t hits. TDE without Kendrick still hit metrics that they don’t is what I’m saying. Stop overlooking the overarching theme. You have to subtract literally everything TDE did post 2011 to make this comparison work.

It’s subjective nah mean. Flow wise, voice wise, delivery wise, lyrical content wise I prefer Westside over Kendrick.

I personally love Kendrick’s music overall but hate his voice (not delivery but voice) and think at times he raps alot of gibberish that don’t resonate with me