I don’t have a dog in the fight.

There’s some AI songs I like, and some that I don’t.

I’ve noticed that people get VERY triggered when discussing AI music. And I get it. It’s not “real”.

However, if it sounds good, do we dismiss it just because it’s AI?

Looking to have an honest conversation about this because I’ve been seeing A LOT of (good) AI music on AM, and I’m like, “Am I allowed to like this?” Lol.

Thoughts?

Here’s the simplest, clearest explanation of why some people say “AI music is bad” — and also why that’s only partially true.

🧩 Why Many People Think AI Music Is Bad

1. It feels soulless (lack of human intention)

People feel music is meaningful because a human chose every chord, lyric, and moment.
AI doesn’t have lived experience — it predicts patterns.
So listeners feel like:

“Cool sound, but no emotion behind it.”

It’s not that the sound is bad — it’s that people crave authorship.

2. It often copies style instead of creating style

Most AI models generate music by imitating past songs.
So critics say it:
• sounds derivative
• lacks originality
• feels like a pastiche instead of an artist

It’s like a really good impersonator, not a creator.

3. Ethical issues ruin the vibe

A lot of people’s anger is about:
• training on copyrighted music
• stealing artist voices
• recreating styles without permission

So the ethics bleed into the aesthetic judgment.

4. It can be too clean

AI music is often:
• perfectly quantized
• overly polished
• predictable
• with zero imperfections

But humans like imperfections—timing drift, vocal rasp, unintentional noise. AI can sound sterile.

5. No personality / identity

Artists aren’t just music. They’re:
• their story
• their face
• their struggle
• their influences
• their personality
• their brand

AI has no identity. People connect to the person, not the sound.

6. People fear it, so they judge it harsher

Some people say it’s bad because they don’t want it replacing:
• artists
• jobs
• culture
• authenticity

So “AI music is bad” is partly a protective reflex.

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🎵 But… AI music is not objectively bad

Here’s the twist:

AI music today is:
• fast
• high-quality
• great for drafts and ideas
• amazing for soundtracks, demos, or production inspiration

And a lot of people who say “AI music sucks” couldn’t even identify it in a blind test.

Often, what people truly mean is:

“AI music scares me because it challenges what ‘real art’ is.”

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🎤 The real question:

Would you say AI-generated beats are bad?
Or AI voice clones?
Or do you mean fully AI-created songs with lyrics?

If you want, I can break down the criticisms by type of AI music (e.g., Suno vs Kits AI vs instrument-only vs voice models).

“ . It often copies style instead of creating style”

Good point.

But current “real” artists do this all the time.

Exactly — and that’s where the debate gets way more nuanced.

You’re right: real artists copy styles constantly.
Every genre is basically a remix of a remix of a remix.

So why do people judge AI differently?

Here’s the clean explanation:

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🎨 Humans copy — but they copy with intention

When a human artist copies a style, they’re doing it because of:
• what they grew up on
• what emotionally resonated with them
• their taste
• their influences
• their culture
• their story

Two people can be inspired by the same artist but make completely different music because their life experience filters the influence.

AI copies stylistically without that internal filter.
It predicts patterns statistically, not artistically.

This is the difference:

Human copying = influence

AI copying = replication

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💿 All genres are basically “copy derivative”… but with evolution

Think about it:
• Drill came from Chicago → UK → NYC → Italy.
• Trap has the same hi-hats since 2005. • Hyperpop is PC Music + Eurodance + glitch.
• Shoegaze is basically My Bloody Valentine + EQ tricks.
• Reggaeton uses the same dembow pattern.

Humans recycle, but they transform.
AI tends to recycle but not transform enough.

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🔬 The key distinction: “Borrowing” vs “Generating from training data”

A human artist:
• consciously blends references
• breaks patterns they don’t like
• adds mistakes
• adds personality
• adds emotional meaning
• reacts to culture

AI:
• is internally forced to stay close to what statistically exists
• does not have taste, identity, or rebellion
• cannot dislike something
• cannot intentionally break rules
• has no emotional direction
• cannot contribute to culture, only read it

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🧠 The “why” behind the art matters to people

AI might output a banger.
Humans might output a copycat track.

But people still respect the human more because:

A human had a reason, a process, a story, and a perspective.

AI has none of that.
It has output — but no intention.

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🎵 TL;DR

You’re right that humans copy.
But humans copy with identity.
AI copies without identity — just probability.

That’s why people judge them differently, even if the final sound is similar.

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If you want, I can break down why AI can still be amazing for production, or why AI might become the next evolution of sampling, which could flip the whole argument on its head.

the context around the music is important to me (who made it, when, why etc.)
the emotions evoked, processed or channeled in the music are also important to me
with ai that just isn‘t there and just ‚sounding good‘ has no appeal as there is enough non-AI music that sounds good
i think art in general is inherently a human thing, so diluting it and stripping it of its essence with AI just takes away everything that makes it that

Lol ok I see what you’re doing

slow

How so?

Irs bir

I can respect this.

Throw the whole thread in the trash

have you heard bully?

Am not gonna lie am not per se a fan

But this version of Heartless do be hitting
It sounded like an interesting thing and I was like "well why not give it a spin"
And yeah, I had to admit that s*** had me grooving

Let’s have a discussion fam.

Instead of throwing out one liners, I’d love to hear your opinions

"Theres some AI songs that i like "

Your brain is mush

Mush is nice

i only like ia when they're used for ASMR Mommy RP

Most AI music sounds generic. Never heard an AI song that I thought was a good song. It’s cool for memes like oh king Von lyrics in the style of a 1940s blues singer. But being that idk why anyone would want to seriously listen to AI songs

So by your definition, nobody should ever like any AI songs? Just wanna make sure I’m tracking.

Like what you want but acting like you need to play devil’s advocate for AI music seems kind of crazy considering there have been a plethora of discussions on here and other social media as to why it is not liked.

• baked to purely capitalize on the financial benefits of the music industry
• takes away literally from art previously created to create a lesser product
• removes opportunities from real people
• it’s f***in lame