We’ve moved well beyond nature. If you wanna argue about the sanctity of human nature above philosophy and morality and all this then you’re gonna have to apply that argument to the sheer multitude of f***ed up Things we do to the world around us and to each other

Every man has their type of women their attracted to. That’s always how it’s been.

crying on the bathroom floor cause I cant lock this thread anmore

100% true

F***ing c***

rude for no reason

Kim K looks like she got beanbag chairs sewn into her buttcheeks.

If she did this for men, I think we all need to collectively start being better to women or something cuz F***.

Come on I'm just teasing you baby

you dont wanna play poker?

Are we betting money?

Wow

no :c

😒

Weve move beyond nature to a certain extent. Personally I don’t see the problem

Kim K comes on the scene, women fw her, men are attracted to her, women are influenced to act/dress/look like her because 1. That’s how they wanna look and 2. They think it’ll attract the kind of men they see kk w.

How is that men oppressing women?

Because men will tell women who don't look like that that they look like s***

Yeah so thats why I said it happens to men too, the intention wasn't to dismiss or minimize the problems women (specifically black & brown), have had to endure in regards to how they're perceived and are able to fit into societal standards. I mean s*** I've lived through the 2000s where Jennifer Aniston's butt was considered big & black/brown women who just simply had bigger butts and thighs via genetics were considered ghetto.

you think attraction is 100% genetic and there's absolutely zero environmental influence on what men find attractive?

because that's not how anything works when it comes to development or biology

look what uve done.

This is not a thing that commonly happens. Men aren’t out here telling women they look like s*** cause they don’t have fake b**** or a bbl.

Women get those surgeries because they see the women they look up to doing it so they do it. But that’s not men being oppressive

You just don't want to understand the issue

Why am I arguing with men defending men

It's always women doing things wrong in your eyes

that’s not true at all

Men have never been under the male gaze

Go to a gay club and their perception will totally change it won’t even be nearly as bad as being a woman in a normal setting