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    Nayuta

    what if they like peacocks and the more eyes they got the more sexy they is to other angels

    That's kind of how it works lol. Like the highest class of angel is the ringed thing with a thousand eyes, so Lucifer was probably like a golden version of that with 10,000 eyes or something

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    Beast Man

    That's kind of how it works lol. Like the highest class of angel is the ringed thing with a thousand eyes, so Lucifer was probably like a golden version of that with 10,000 eyes or something

    Might not be, Lucifer being a “fallen angel” is debatable. Angels don’t have free-will, and cannot disobey God at all (they’re not programmed that way).

    Only demons & humans have free will, and the ability to be good or evil. So Lucifer initially could’ve been a “good” arch-demon tbh, one that lived amongst the angels, prior to falling out with God.

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    oh the tiktok dancers?

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    ALPHABEAR

    Might not be, Lucifer being a “fallen angel” is debatable. Angels don’t have free-will, and cannot disobey God at all (they’re not programmed that way).

    Only demons & humans have free will, and the ability to be good or evil. So Lucifer initially could’ve been a “good” arch-demon tbh, one that lived amongst the angels, prior to falling out with God.

    Yea shaytan was apparently a jinn or something along those lines. Jinn just like man have free will and thus can either obey or disobey Allah (SWT)

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    Fargo

    Yea shaytan was apparently a jinn or something along those lines. Jinn just like man have free will and thus can either obey or disobey Allah (SWT)

    Exactly, a lot of people can’t wrap their head around a demon/jinn being loved by God, but demons were God’s original creations before humans. They were literally created & populated earth before us.

    Plus, when people ask “why did God/Allah love Lucifer so much?”, well, Lucifer was possibly an arch-demon who betrayed the demons during the angel-demon wars, prompting God to elevate Lucifer’s status higher, above angels.

    Perhaps God saw the destructive nature of the Jinn who were powerful & decided to create humans fragile & weak so that we may appreciate & cling to life, instead of dominate each other and war nonstop.

    In all of human existence, we’ve only had 2 world wars & then shut up. Like literally learned our lesson. Sure, we have conflicts, but that’s not our internal desire. We cling to peace & sometimes make mistakes finding it.

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    ALPHABEAR

    Exactly, a lot of people can’t wrap their head around a demon/jinn being loved by God, but demons were God’s original creations before humans. They were literally created & populated earth before us.

    Plus, when people ask “why did God/Allah love Lucifer so much?”, well, Lucifer was possibly an arch-demon who betrayed the demons during the angel-demon wars, prompting God to elevate Lucifer’s status higher, above angels.

    Perhaps God saw the destructive nature of the Jinn who were powerful & decided to create humans fragile & weak so that we may appreciate & cling to life, instead of dominate each other and war nonstop.

    In all of human existence, we’ve only had 2 world wars & then shut up. Like literally learned our lesson. Sure, we have conflicts, but that’s not our internal desire. We cling to peace & sometimes make mistakes finding it.

    I've never heard of jinn in reference to being God's creation

    I used to have super in depth convos with this girl and we'd talk theology and philosophy and s***, and the biggest areas we disagreed on was (1A) is God actually omniscient, and (2A) does anyone besides God actually have free will. My pov was Yes to 1A and No to 2A specifically because of 1A.

    But isn't Lucifer supposed to be ruler of the 13th realm (presumably Earth)?

    I'm going to comeback to this topic in a few but can you expound on the role of Jinn in God's plan? But to your last point, I mean we call those world wars but humans have been warring since creation

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