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  • Dec 21, 2020
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    Osho

    Xxxtentacion exists

    x had a distribution deal, which is still done through a major label.

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    phil trout

    but the music will always be better without one

    i completely disagree, quite the opposite - when there is alot of money on the line it brings out the best. hence the reason why most rappers fall off after their deal.

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    Why not use tunecore or something to distribute your music and hire a sick independent marketing company and pay them 500k to promote your album. I have a feeling they would do a better job than a record label

  • Dec 21, 2020
    drdre

    Did that happen before Thrift shop or because of it tho?

    Probably because of it

  • Dec 21, 2020

    Every rapper? I'm assuming you are talking about those want to be an A list artist. But even then, not every artist need a record deal to do so (ex. Mac Miller pre Good AM, Macklemore, Chance) but some major label services can be taken advantage of.

    For example, Warner Music (top 3 biggest labels) have a division called ADA specifically for independent artist who do not want to sign a record deal but may need something like distribution done. (This the route Mavklemore went)

    Also not every rapper wants the same level of success or even have the same goals, so dont agree with the "every rapper" part.

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    Leif_Erikson92

    He has a weird deal where Warner Bros pushes his songs to radio even though he's indie

    It's a division called ADA, not weird. Many artist use this service including Run the Jewels. They actually just opened up a office in Japan so the division is going global

  • Experiment626

    It's a division called ADA, not weird. Many artist use this service including Run the Jewels. They actually just opened up a office in Japan so the division is going global

    Alright well at the time (Around 2012/13) when Thrift Shop blew up, it was weird.

  • Dec 21, 2020
    Leif_Erikson92

    He has a weird deal where Warner Bros pushes his songs to radio even though he's indie

    Mac Miller had this deal too.
    It sounds like a distribution deal

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    whippet volverse

    russ came in the game signed. just wasn't a traditional deal. that's not the same as being independent

    not true, he had 10 albums that flopped and got big from gamers using his s*** lol

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    whippet volverse

    x had a distribution deal, which is still done through a major label.

    he was famous before that and he only got distributed by EMPIRE which isn’t a major label

  • Dec 21, 2020

    False. Chance was hosting SNL years before he even put out his debut album. I know he eventually flopped but that's because the music was trash, not because he didn't have a label

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    I would say its more likely they find it harder to STAY relevant

    Cuz a lot of people have deals and are irrelevant

  • Dec 21, 2020
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  • Dec 21, 2020

    Nice propaganda OP we're all staying independent nowadays

  • Dec 21, 2020
    ghost

  • Dec 21, 2020
    Osho

    Xxxtentacion exists

  • Dec 21, 2020
    3Dots

    I would say its more likely they find it harder to STAY relevant

    Cuz a lot of people have deals and are irrelevant

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    Osho

    he has multi platinum songs from his debut album that also went platinum independently, has crazy numbers on spotify etc

    Never heard a track by him until I heard it on the 2k soundtrack

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    TTC

    Why not use tunecore or something to distribute your music and hire a sick independent marketing company and pay them 500k to promote your album. I have a feeling they would do a better job than a record label

    Because people have 500k laying around lol

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    Also Mario Judah is independent

  • Dec 21, 2020
    Zezima

    That’s true, but slowly I think that people are needing less and less radio exposure. By 2030 radio will probably be completely dead.

    radio will never die as long as major labels exist, they need radio to make sure their plants start getting listened to one way or another

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    Bow And Arrow

    Also Mario Judah is independent

    i thought this too, but he signed to atlantic records apparently according to helloyassine. idk his source but it surprised me

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    Classique

    Because people have 500k laying around lol

    lets say there was a way for artists to get that type of money (advance money) while remaining independent? Then what would stop an artist from paying 500k for marketing, 300k to record the album, and 200k for visuals like music videos and stuff. At that point an artist would be able to release a huge album without the help of a record label

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    tupacarti

    i thought this too, but he signed to atlantic records apparently according to helloyassine. idk his source but it surprised me

    His current songs are licensed under himself in AM, so he became relevant without a deal

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    I’d sell my soul for a bag 🤷‍♂️ F*** it id sell my masters too...