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  • Dec 21, 2020
    TTC

    lets say there was a way for artists to get that type of money (advance money) while remaining independent? Then what would stop an artist from paying 500k for marketing, 300k to record the album, and 200k for visuals like music videos and stuff. At that point an artist would be able to release a huge album without the help of a record label

    I guess you could get a business loan but idk if anyone starting out rapping could just get 500k like that

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    OP is a major label shill lol

  • Dec 21, 2020
    Goo

    OP is a major label shill lol

    LMAO

  • Dec 21, 2020
    Osho

    Xxxtentacion exists

    not anymore

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    Rather have a career like Curren$y's where you are well respected and make a lot of money instead of being like a Fetty Wap who has 3 hot singles for one summer and then gets banished to the shadow realm and remembered as a failure

  • Dec 21, 2020
    Bow And Arrow

    His current songs are licensed under himself in AM, so he became relevant without a deal

    yeah i'm aware. there can also be secret licensing which happens all the time (i don't think that happens w/ mario), a recent example that I can think of is summrs who has been signed for a year but only just now is releasing under his label license.

    tik tok has given so many artists relevancy and hits too, it's easier to become relevant now which is why I think OP is wrong tbh. the hardest part would be staying for the long run which needs a good team that actually cares about you and the music you're making. Chance had this but threw it all away for The Big Day...still, his career shows that it's possible to be relevant without a deal and to ignore the feats him and Pat reached would be ignorant.

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    Big Papi Nizzy

    Never heard a track by him until I heard it on the 2k soundtrack

    which song was that?

  • Dec 21, 2020
    tupacarti

    i thought this too, but he signed to atlantic records apparently according to helloyassine. idk his source but it surprised me

    Mario signed.

  • Dec 21, 2020

    signing to a label only guarantees you relevancy for a tad bit, it doesn't by any means guarantee longevity or that you'll maintain a dedicated fanbase

  • Dec 21, 2020
    Osho

    which song was that?

    Guess What ft Rick Ross

  • Dec 21, 2020

    Tentacion was the only one from the last decade who pulled it off frfr

    Everybody else is cap. (Russ, Chance, Mackelmore etc.)

  • 6geW

    Chance still had major industry people plugging him post 10 day even without signing to label

  • Dec 21, 2020
    6geW

    Plant

  • Spliff Sparxxx

    i have never ever heard a Russ song in my life

    I said that too until I went to his Spotify and realized I've heard all of his top songs on the radio

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    Osho

    Xxxtentacion exists

    was signed

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    lord carter

    was signed

    a month before he died doesn’t count, check the wiki for his 17 album he released it on his own imprint

  • Dec 21, 2020
    Goo

    Rather have a career like Curren$y's where you are well respected and make a lot of money instead of being like a Fetty Wap who has 3 hot singles for one summer and then gets banished to the shadow realm and remembered as a failure

    twas more than 3 wasn't it

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    Osho

    a month before he died doesn’t count, check the wiki for his 17 album he released it on his own imprint

    also X blew up before signing w/ Empire. was really fascinating to see somebody get that big without affiliation with a label. plus he was in jail twice during his blow up, unbelievable. hope another artist does what he did this decade

  • Dec 21, 2020
    tupacarti

    also X blew up before signing w/ Empire. was really fascinating to see somebody get that big without affiliation with a label. plus he was in jail twice during his blow up, unbelievable. hope another artist does what he did this decade

    he used to get his friends to advertise to people in his local mcdonalds and used to pay for other people to repost him on soundcloud, then he ended up recouping the money by also selling shoutouts, made like 6 figures doing this. innovative as f*** and very admirable

  • Dec 21, 2020
    Osho

    Xxxtentacion exists

    *existed

  • Dec 21, 2020
    TTC

    Why not use tunecore or something to distribute your music and hire a sick independent marketing company and pay them 500k to promote your album. I have a feeling they would do a better job than a record label

    labels got hella perks when it comes to releasing stuff on DSPs etc

  • Dec 21, 2020
    Leif_Erikson92

    He has a weird deal where Warner Bros pushes his songs to radio even though he's indie

    Is this the same as Weeknd? Or was he actually signed by republic?

  • Dec 21, 2020
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    Op has a point, the biggest truly independent artist I can think of essentially had one of the most unique teams around him

    With that being said, you can definitely be relevant. Not relevant enough that everyone will know your name but you can be a C-List artist

  • Dec 21, 2020
    ch33zey

    Op has a point, the biggest truly independent artist I can think of essentially had one of the most unique teams around him

    With that being said, you can definitely be relevant. Not relevant enough that everyone will know your name but you can be a C-List artist

    Who cares if some stats-obsessed nerds on niche forums and radio show hosts consider you "relevant" when you have real fans and make an actual living out of your true passion tbh

  • Dec 21, 2020

    I’m down to sign as long as I have full control over what I put out and when I put it out. They can keep the advances and all that extra s***