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  • You down to seize the means of production ?

  • Mar 13, 2025
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    Jbreezyondeck

    That last part is absolutely not true lmao

    How is it not?

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    Okay wait what do you disagree with about what I said because you literally just repeated my point back to me? And I’m not a liberal.

  • Mar 13, 2025

    Why can’t both of these things be an issue

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    TheFader

    How is it not?

    Drake “gets away with” talking about IG thots? We been on the same site this last year? That’s like THE thing people complain about the most in his music

  • Mar 13, 2025
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    Tkken

    "social commentary"

    Y’all need other people to co sign what you do as not lame so you feel like everyone thinks social commentary or caring enough to even have an opinion is “corny”

    This is why Drake thinks “rapping like he free the slaves” or “on stage twerking with a dictionary” are bars. He has an outdated cliche nerdy ass kid view of what niggas think is “cool” lol

  • Mar 13, 2025
    Jbreezyondeck

    Drake “gets away with” talking about IG thots? We been on the same site this last year? That’s like THE thing people complain about the most in his music

    I think he’s saying he “gets away with it” via the fans that criticize Kendrick for making free the slaves music

  • Mar 13, 2025
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    ig in some very literal sense

    but hes not saying anything deep or meaningful enough recently to give him some kind of point over drake

    watch the party die was kind of the last straw for me where I realized he was basically just yapping trying to convince us that hes some kind of morally superior leader figure in contrast to drake

    which completely goes against what he was saying on mr morale too

  • Mar 13, 2025

    Midrick is the world’s biggest hypocrite.

  • Mar 13, 2025

    You don’t even know me from s*** I was just simply saying Drake is not absolved from criticism neither is Kendrick. People been b****ing about his musical content and that’s totally fair but he’s certainly not just coasting without people making comments on it

  • Mar 13, 2025
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    crolivia chow

    nah i get it, to be completely transparent im white so im not trying to discuss culture or black american lives, i definitely do not know and do not want to claim that i do know

    i just experience some frustration that the threads devolve into "if you're not black you cant have an opinion", is that wrong of me? totally open to genuine feedback

    Respectfully Fuego, I already knew that but I know your earnest so I'll give you my perspective

    I understand what you're saying but identity is something that's coveted and is a cornerstone in a lot of our (Black Americans specifically) lives. Being stripped of identity and constantly having to reinvent yourselves as a people is one of the effects of creating dissention between a people. You gotta remember slavery is the most significant even in history and we're watching the benefits of something that ended almost 200 years ago. We get to enjoying the celebration of a people, but we get irritated by the pain. All the while the intellectual property does not benefit the culture or it's people, and is actively used to continue the bondage of ours creators. It goes as far as our downtrodden getting subjected to limiting to basically perform for food. Although slavery was a bit ago, many of us have talked or known of a family member that's been through some type of servitude, imminent domain, unpaid and/or predatory medical research, displacement from floods or fires, etc

    Essentially the soul of the people is in the music. These conversations will continue to happen because discourse as a whole hasn't come to terms with the pain of Black peoples, albeit I do think some of it is rage race bait. Sorry for being long winded but I had to

  • Mar 13, 2025
    crolivia chow

    ah i see, is it fair for drake to sort of fall back on the idea that he was probably still surrounded by black friends and likely experienced parts of black culture still? its not like canada has 0 black people

    or is it just that thats not enough technically, like you still probably get most of your values from your parents type of thing?

    The footage exists of him in the Degrassi era

    That alone speaks for itself if you saw him in those days and were black growing up especially in a southern environment like he kinda defaults to when he’s on his American swag lol

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    crolivia chow

    ah i see, is it fair for drake to sort of fall back on the idea that he was probably still surrounded by black friends and likely experienced parts of black culture still? its not like canada has 0 black people

    or is it just that thats not enough technically, like you still probably get most of your values from your parents type of thing?

    i think most people’s values are pretty firmly established at home from a young age for the most part and one might rediscover themselves as they age, which is probably what Drake went through in a public eye and now we here. but if that video at 22 talking to them girls about slang is how is he was feeling at 22 that’s pretty deep into age to pivot and it not be looked at like

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    inspoeater

    Y’all need other people to co sign what you do as not lame so you feel like everyone thinks social commentary or caring enough to even have an opinion is “corny”

    !https://youtu.be/uAPUkgeiFVY

    This is why Drake thinks “rapping like he free the slaves” or “on stage twerking with a dictionary” are bars. He has an outdated cliche nerdy ass kid view of what niggas think is “cool” lol

    there is nothing wrong with social commentary in music lol, not sure how you read anything different from my comment

    also youre talking about needing other peoples cosigns as if kendrick is some kind of underdog figure

    he performed at the super bowl THIS YEAR

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    Mar 13, 2025
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    Wiggler

    You don’t think Kendrick has been guilty of offering a sanitized image of black radicalism to the mainstream

    Welcome to hip-hop

    🌀🧩

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    Wiggler

    You don’t think Kendrick has been guilty of offering a sanitized image of black radicalism to the mainstream

    He's just a yapper benefiting off everything he yap about

  • Mar 13, 2025
    Free YoungBoy

    Yall are cowards for using real life tragedies to get at Kendrick

    One of the worst parts of the beef hands down

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    Tkken

    ig in some very literal sense

    but hes not saying anything deep or meaningful enough recently to give him some kind of point over drake

    watch the party die was kind of the last straw for me where I realized he was basically just yapping trying to convince us that hes some kind of morally superior leader figure in contrast to drake

    which completely goes against what he was saying on mr morale too

    is Mr Morale not recent? He bared his soul on that album only to get a lukewarm reception. Now on GNX he's wylin out and everybody loves it lol. Unfortunately I think the only way he can satisfy everybody is by going back and forth between deep and ignorant

  • Mar 13, 2025
    soapmanwun

    even if he is I don't think Drake has it in him to make a good diss track about it so it's kind of irrelevant

    I mean I agree but I wasn’t making a point about how Drake should’ve won the beef or anything. He’s not as good at rapping as Kendrick is and he’s definitely not as smart as I thought he was before the beef started but even then I wouldn’t have expected him to take that angle.

    I just hate the narrative of this beef a lot. So unproductive and backwards

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    soapmanwun

    is Mr Morale not recent? He bared his soul on that album only to get a lukewarm reception. Now on GNX he's wylin out and everybody loves it lol. Unfortunately I think the only way he can satisfy everybody is by going back and forth between deep and ignorant

    im talking about gnx/pre gnx beef stuff

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