Nov 4, 2019Really hope we get an ignore feature that hides entire threads from posters too
Nov 5, 2019these threads need to stop
Nov 5, 2019·edited
nikedonHe's at least one of the greatest of all time.
It's worthless defending him now because the hate towards him has actually nothing to do with music, it's just people tired of constant overwhelming commercial success.
Jay had his phase where he was discredited and hated, Kanye too and Wayne more than everyone. And just like all of them, Drake will end up loved the moment he's not the overwhelming #1 option. The hate will then turn to the new guy at that spot, be it Kendrick, Cole or Trav.
Every artist you named besides Kanye had a spell of mid albums. That’s where a lot of the hate came from. Majority of the hate Ye got was never music related. It was always outside antics
At his most hated Ye dropped universally praised albums. One of those being among the greatest albums ever, the other being the most influential
Nov 5, 2019SHAQUILLEDrake stans so delusional man wtf
lol I just find it amusing that OP tried to originally deny Ye as influencing modern sounds with 808s when the project the OP cited as birthing the "slow rap /atmospheric" sound has a Kanye instrumental on it lol
OPNov 5, 2019·1 replySegaDreamFlashThe tape you cite as birthing that sound literally has a verse over a Kanye instrumental on it my g. Lol & Cudi's A Kid Named Cudi tape deff had him over atmospheric instrumentals
the album also had a jay z instrumental i dont really see ur point
- Nov 5, 2019·1 replyManLike
Oh really? Please send me a link to where Ye or Cudi are making slow rap and rnb stripper ballads over atmospheric, minimalistic instrumentals?
edit: But i agree that 808s allowed for male vulnerablity to be seen in hip hop even though Drake took the more of the beatings for his soft subject matter than kanye
Drake took more beatings cuz he wasn't as established, so it was just like who is this "soft yellow nigga makin stripper anthems".
When Ye dropped 808s he was 3 classics in by then.
- Nov 5, 2019·1 replyManLike
the album also had a jay z instrumental i dont really see ur point
the jay z instrumental was him on his freestyle backpack s***.
The Kanye instrumental was clearly an indication of where he was gonna head sonically.
- Nov 5, 2019
Drakes debut album literally has an 808s throwaway
Nov 5, 2019·1 replySegaDreamFlashDrake took more beatings cuz he wasn't as established, so it was just like who is this "soft yellow nigga makin stripper anthems".
When Ye dropped 808s he was 3 classics in by then.
Or it was cause 808s was bout loss and pain/depression. And Drake was more bout simping for women
Nov 5, 2019·1 replySHAQUILLEKanye has 5 undeniable classics and two potential classics. That’s 7. That’s the bar
take that imaginary bar away when u force genius status upon yourself and wife a kardashian
your wifey your wifey👀
- Nov 5, 2019Y0rn
Or it was cause 808s was bout loss and pain/depression. And Drake was more bout simping for women
That could be a factor too but Kanye got more of a pass cuz he had just given niggas Graduation the year before and he was known as an "experimental" type nigga by then
Nov 5, 2019·1 replySHAQUILLEKanye has 5 undeniable classics and two potential classics. That’s 7. That’s the bar
What are the 2 "potential classics"?
- Nov 5, 2019·1 replylg
take that imaginary bar away when u force genius status upon yourself and wife a kardashian
your wifey your wifey👀
Drake forced Jay-Z comparisons on songs and knocked up a camgirl. SFG, Take Care & NWTS are still great projects
- Nov 5, 2019·2 repliesMiguelMeyerz
What are the 2 "potential classics"?
Yeezus and Pablo
- OPNov 5, 2019·1 replySegaDreamFlash
the jay z instrumental was him on his freestyle backpack s***.
The Kanye instrumental was clearly an indication of where he was gonna head sonically.
I just fail to really see it because to me 808s is this muffled sounding album with heavy autone whilst so far gone is has this magical aura that honestly sounded so new and fresh but ill concede because more people agree with the 808s influence apparently 40 said it himself
- Nov 5, 2019·2 repliesSegaDreamFlash
Drake forced Jay-Z comparisons on songs and knocked up a camgirl. SFG, Take Care & NWTS are still great projects
no forced comparisons drake surpassed hov’s star status a while ago now
- Nov 5, 2019·2 repliesSHAQUILLE
Yeezus and Pablo
pablo is half filler my guy nothing classic about it
- OPNov 5, 2019
If graduation is a classic then views is idc
- Nov 5, 2019ManLike
I just fail to really see it because to me 808s is this muffled sounding album with heavy autone whilst so far gone is has this magical aura that honestly sounded so new and fresh but ill concede because more people agree with the 808s influence apparently 40 said it himself
808s is muffle sounding / heavy autotune but look at SFG and Thank Me Later.
Both projects had autotune on them and instrumentals with heavy reverbs and soft drums tbh.
- Nov 5, 2019SHAQUILLE
Drake stans so delusional man wtf
- Nov 5, 2019·edited·1 replylg
pablo is half filler my guy nothing classic about it
That’s your opinion. Classic era and the album was met with almost universal praise.
- Nov 5, 2019lg
no forced comparisons drake surpassed hov’s star status a while ago now
ehhhhh
- Nov 5, 2019·2 replieslg
no forced comparisons drake surpassed hov’s star status a while ago now
Drake doesn’t have a reasonable doubt so right off the bat he’s not on Hov level musically
Rocowear was more successful than OVO
Rocafeller was/is more successful than ovo
Even his liquor is more successful than Drakes.When you think about everything he’s done has been a cheap knockoff of what Hov did
- Nov 5, 2019·1 replySHAQUILLE
Drake doesn’t have a reasonable doubt so right off the bat he’s not on Hov level musically
Rocowear was more successful than OVO
Rocafeller was/is more successful than ovo
Even his liquor is more successful than Drakes.When you think about everything he’s done has been a cheap knockoff of what Hov did
none of these numbers are music related
drake crushed hov’s buildings hell he crushed the beatles buildings he’s on another level
Nov 5, 2019Mans said Views was a classic