The first thing that comes to mind can be how it seems how a lot of these ladies have to walk on eggshells or else they’ll get hit with a spontaneous hate campaign by Stan Twitter (a recent example is Tyla and the discussion surrounding her identity and crossover appeal)
Are there any other similar incidents you guys can think of, any different issues affecting female artists and how these things could possibly be alleviated and addressed to make the experience of female artists better.
Men will dismiss a really talented artist bc shes a woman as “not for them” but then listen to garbage ass music by a man lol
Men will dismiss a really talented artist bc shes a woman as “not for them” but then listen to garbage ass music by a man lol
who are some ladies that you think are underrated/overshadowed because of this specific phenomenon
Interesting observation OP
Meanwhile artists who cater to men can literally worship hitler and still have a fanbase
Another thing that really bothers me is that it seems like so many of these girls have this forced hyper sexualized image even if their actual music is pretty tame. As ktts resident freak I can confidently say that Sabrina Carpenter is the biggest “fake freak” alive and can almost guarantee she’s being told to act like this by a label exec.
This has always been problem but it feels like nowadays with social media there’s this hyper fixation about every detail of these peoples bodies and even the slightest change in the artists appearance can contribute to damaging their reputation. Ice Spice is a good example of this, her music didn’t get any better or worse but because she started to hit the gym all of a sudden she’s getting genuine hate (doesn’t help that she fell out with Nicki’s schizo ass and people pretended to care about her drama with a old friend) and even before all that she was getting harassed at shows when she’d be dancing.
Interesting observation OP
Meanwhile artists who cater to men can literally worship hitler and still have a fanbase
Male artists in particular can go on Racist Kick Streamer #252’s platform laughing it up and barely get any pushback but let some rnb singer call someone who’s been cyberbullying them fat and they’ll wanna behead them.
Male artists in particular can go on Racist Kick Streamer #252’s platform laughing it up and barely get any pushback but let some rnb singer call someone who’s been cyberbullying them fat and they’ll wanna behead them.
Which r&b singer are you talking about?
Jack Antonoff’s busy schedule! Just a little joke for you to start your day with 👍 Happy Monday everyone!
who are some ladies that you think are underrated/overshadowed because of this specific phenomenon
If Doechii was a man, the level of hate she would receive would be minimal in comparison to what it is now
I have never seen a female artist go from being virulently hated to blindingly respected the way male artists have (Ye, Bieber, Tyler, etc.)
Men will dismiss a really talented artist bc shes a woman as “not for them” but then listen to garbage ass music by a man lol
Shorty can be talented. But I'm sorry man I'm just not gonna be able to relate to a woman rapping about taking d*** til she squirt on it.
For what it's worth, I don't really relate to male rappers rapping about popping pills and sliming their opps either.
Shorty can be talented. But I'm sorry man I'm just not gonna be able to relate to a woman rapping about taking d*** til she squirt on it.
For what it's worth, I don't really relate to male rappers rapping about popping pills and sliming their opps either.
Is that genuinely the type of artist you think I’m talking about man?
Which r&b singer are you talking about?
No one just providing a hypothetical example
I have never seen a female artist go from being virulently hated to blindingly respected the way male artists have (Ye, Bieber, Tyler, etc.)
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If Doechii was a man, the level of hate she would receive would be minimal in comparison to what it is now
Initially I think a lot of it was because she’s loosely connected to Kendrick since she’s on TDE, but after the beef reached its climax the hate wave was still there and a lot of it was clearly based on her being a darkskinned black woman which made her a easy target for these types (this adin ross clip is a perfect example)

Men will dismiss a really talented artist bc shes a woman as “not for them” but then listen to garbage ass music by a man lol
People that do that got some deeper problems, they're a lost cause
that is a big one,
there's also the fact your looks are still so prioritized and everyone is always talking about it nonstop. People tie your worth to your looks to an extent, they are ALWAYS commenting on it, and you still have to sell it to an extent, and when your going through PR issues, if your not good looking i cant imagine how it would impact your mental health.
Because of this also you have to maintain a look so much, and rejecting that brings you a weird level of vitriol and people hate it.
Men will dismiss a really talented artist bc shes a woman as “not for them” but then listen to garbage ass music by a man lol
"all she do is rap about p****"
*turns on a nigga rapping about selling d*****
"all she do is rap about p****"
*turns on a nigga rapping about selling d*****
Even better turns on a nigga who raps about nothing but getting head/pussy
Crazy allegations, people undermining your character and effort nonstop. You can't just be going through s***, you cant just have a d*** problem like all male rappers or singers do, nothing, its all seen as you being more "dirty" and hurting your value. You can shave your head and everyone will think your literally going through psychosis.
Non conservative expressions of sexuality, expressing your flawed relationship history,a nd having relationships with people of your status, are all much more stigmatized and will automatically get you branded as a "pass around" or "whore" even if you have dated like 3 or 4 people in your music industry like rihanna.
People that do that got some deeper problems, they're a lost cause
They missing out on some dope ass music frfr
I’m not even gonna act like I don’t listen to more men than women but Jill Scott, Janet Jackson, Britney Spears, Solange, Clairo, Missy, Noname, Amy winehouse, Beyonce, Rihanna etc i could keep going all got some of my fav songs and albums ever. Dope music is dope music
Crazy allegations, people undermining your character and effort nonstop. You can't just be going through s***, you cant just have a d*** problem like all male rappers or singers do, nothing, its all seen as you being more "dirty" and hurting your value. You can shave your head and everyone will think your literally going through psychosis.
Non conservative expressions of sexuality, expressing your flawed relationship history,a nd having relationships with people of your status, are all much more stigmatized and will automatically get you branded as a "pass around" or "whore" even if you have dated like 3 or 4 people in your music industry like rihanna.
Facts its really weird when men get mad bc famous women be f***ing
Like famous people in general be f***ing, most people would f*** a lot if they could literally f*** whoever they wanted