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    YASS SANCTION! F*** CCP! F*** CHINESE! I AM VERY GOOD!

  • space0cadet

    YASS SANCTION! F*** CCP! F*** CHINESE! I AM VERY GOOD!

    That surveillance tech had such a bright future ahead of it

  • Jun 6, 2021
    TragedyBerlusconi

    https://twitter.com/axios/status/1400526288675348481?s=19

    Good s*** from the Biden admin

    Prob should have been done awhile ago

  • Jun 6, 2021
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    Ok, seriously what is wrong with China?

  • The Minds Throne

    Ok, seriously what is wrong with China?

    authoritarianism

  • xinjiang.amnesty.org

    new report from amnesty international

    the word genocide is not used- read it and make up your own minds

  • Gojira 🦖
    Jun 15, 2021
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    Jun 16, 2021

    Wrong thread

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    whole thread is full of disinformation. hope many realise the majority of this is just anti-china propoganda. The west is scared of socialism and it always has been; just another such case of NATO powers interfering and trying to destabilse marxist nations.

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    kaRXamja

    whole thread is full of disinformation. hope many realise the majority of this is just anti-china propoganda. The west is scared of socialism and it always has been; just another such case of NATO powers interfering and trying to destabilse marxist nations.

    China is neither socialist nor marxist? They are a competitor in the world capitalist economy

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    Good thread breaking down what's in the report.

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    Yuzzy

    China is neither socialist nor marxist? They are a competitor in the world capitalist economy

    also just saying by defintion china is both socialist and marxist - read their constiution lmfao. i guess they aren't either in the truest, most ideal sense, but they are not neccasaritly 'capitalist' . furthermore this is some interestinf reading to put s*** into perspective :)
    reddit.com/r/communism/comments/5ku8dz/china_as_a_socialist_marxistleninist_state_a

    This quote especially:

    "Examining what companies are truly private is important because privatization is often confused with the spreading out of shareholding and the sale of minority stakes. In China, 100 percent state ownership is often diluted by the division of ownership into shares, some of which are made available to nonstate actors, such as foreign companies or other private investors. Nearly two-thirds of the state-owned enterprises and subsidiaries in China have undertaken such changes, leading some foreign observers to relabel these firms as “nonstate” or even “private.” But this reclassification is incorrect. The sale of stock does nothing by itself to alter state control: dozens of enterprises are no less state controlled simply because they are listed on foreign stock exchanges. As a practical matter, three-quarters of the roughly 1,500 companies listed as domestic stocks are still state owned."

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    Mango

    Good thread breaking down what's in the report.

    https://twitter.com/GFPhilosophy/status/1404787058774712328

    this is so real + amnesty international was foudned by british intelligence and employ cia funded propogandists to push their liberal agenda :)

    mintpressnews.com/amnesty-international-troubling-collaboration-with-uk-us-intelligence/253939

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    also just saying by defintion china is both socialist and marxist - read their constiution lmfao. i guess they aren't either in the truest, most ideal sense, but they are not neccasaritly 'capitalist' . furthermore this is some interestinf reading to put s*** into perspective :)
    https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/5ku8dz/china_as_a_socialist_marxistleninist_state_a/

    This quote especially:

    "Examining what companies are truly private is important because privatization is often confused with the spreading out of shareholding and the sale of minority stakes. In China, 100 percent state ownership is often diluted by the division of ownership into shares, some of which are made available to nonstate actors, such as foreign companies or other private investors. Nearly two-thirds of the state-owned enterprises and subsidiaries in China have undertaken such changes, leading some foreign observers to relabel these firms as “nonstate” or even “private.” But this reclassification is incorrect. The sale of stock does nothing by itself to alter state control: dozens of enterprises are no less state controlled simply because they are listed on foreign stock exchanges. As a practical matter, three-quarters of the roughly 1,500 companies listed as domestic stocks are still state owned."

    worse wealth inequality than america, worse working hours, state legislating how many kids you can have, no votes, apps instantly banned when they criticise the government (clubhouse)

    if i want a great social and economic system you can copy the nordic nations or even ghana and botswana

    china is an authoritarian nation

    also- just because the prc was founded upon marxist and socialist principles doesnt mean it is able to live up to them- america was founded on classical liberal ideas RE the individual and their rights- yet maintained slavery for many years later

    It's best to judge it for what it is rather than what it proclaims to be

  • this thread is fine and the pro-uighur side have been overall the most reasonable and willing to understand scepticism

    there are countless rebuttals to the denialism which when given, are met with ad hominem

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    kaRXamja

    this is so real + amnesty international was foudned by british intelligence and employ cia funded propogandists to push their liberal agenda :)

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/amnesty-international-troubling-collaboration-with-uk-us-intelligence/253939/

    yes the liberal agenda where people have human rights

    sounds good to me

  • Jun 16, 2021

    still don’t understand why this is pinned

  • Why are y'all so eager to ensure china avoids scrutiny at all costs

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    reddit.com/r/SocialDemocracy/comments/nz2m21/only_using_the_public_official_chinese_documents

    Whether they constitute genocide is something else- but you can literally use chinese government documents to prove they are doing evil

    post is literally only sourced by ccp released material

    what is the excuse now?

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    worse wealth inequality than america, worse working hours, state legislating how many kids you can have, no votes, apps instantly banned when they criticise the government (clubhouse)

    if i want a great social and economic system you can copy the nordic nations or even ghana and botswana

    china is an authoritarian nation

    also- just because the prc was founded upon marxist and socialist principles doesnt mean it is able to live up to them- america was founded on classical liberal ideas RE the individual and their rights- yet maintained slavery for many years later

    It's best to judge it for what it is rather than what it proclaims to be

    i dont neccasarily disagree with what you have to say, but the state mandated kids thing was to comabt a populaion growing at such a rate that china wouldn't be able to handle it lmao. i see ur point about the no voting and i would like to just point out; canada has no term limits nor is everyone entitled to the vote. while its not a one party state like china is neither is authoritarianism neccasarily a bad thing; China has done wonders after the century of shame because of the strong centeral government making efficient and swift descions

    furthermore china lifts thousands above the poverty line, and according to state media (which is as trustworthy as any other CIA funded western source or imperialist nation's) absolute poverty in china is pretty much nonexistent: drive.google.com/file/d/1kVz6gmz3kfUBjugYGDpWcyk6irRsz9gw/view?usp=sharing

    the nordic nations still exploit the global south; they are just america but with free healthcare lmao.

    ur are 100% rightt about judging at face value though, China is at least more marxist than most nations, but definitly not what i would want it to be.

    would also like to note that i am not blindly supporting china, i am a staunch critic of CCP imperailism in the south asia and african reguibns

  • Jun 17, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    https://www.reddit.com/r/SocialDemocracy/comments/nz2m21/only_using_the_public_official_chinese_documents/

    Whether they constitute genocide is something else- but you can literally use chinese government documents to prove they are doing evil

    post is literally only sourced by ccp released material

    what is the excuse now?

    nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-targets-chinese-uighur-militants-well-taliban-fighters-afghanistan-n845876

    wheres ur outrage about this? every state commits evil but China isn't committing genocide against uighur population. so much evidence to posit that most of these camps dont even exist and pretty much all claims are unsubstantiated.

    on a side note sick avi king crule is dope i love the ooz

  • Jun 17, 2021
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    kaRXamja

    i dont neccasarily disagree with what you have to say, but the state mandated kids thing was to comabt a populaion growing at such a rate that china wouldn't be able to handle it lmao. i see ur point about the no voting and i would like to just point out; canada has no term limits nor is everyone entitled to the vote. while its not a one party state like china is neither is authoritarianism neccasarily a bad thing; China has done wonders after the century of shame because of the strong centeral government making efficient and swift descions

    furthermore china lifts thousands above the poverty line, and according to state media (which is as trustworthy as any other CIA funded western source or imperialist nation's) absolute poverty in china is pretty much nonexistent: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kVz6gmz3kfUBjugYGDpWcyk6irRsz9gw/view?usp=sharing

    the nordic nations still exploit the global south; they are just america but with free healthcare lmao.

    ur are 100% rightt about judging at face value though, China is at least more marxist than most nations, but definitly not what i would want it to be.

    would also like to note that i am not blindly supporting china, i am a staunch critic of CCP imperailism in the south asia and african reguibns

    Global south countries can be prosperous social democracies. Ghana and Botswana are on their way to it

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