Weekly where I chop it up, hopefully improving the discussion in the music section.

People who don't listen to RnB I always give the side eye.

RnB (including Funk, Soul, and more) are the the foundations of hiphop. Many of the Classic songs that are were created were literally copy and pasted samples with some drums/extra of soul/rnb classics (IE Today was a good day, etc)

RnB offers the soul that hip hop/rap needs. RnB offers a balance for hiphop historically.

Although I didn't grow up listening to older RnB music due to my parents (particularly mother) being heavy Christian, my mother played an OBSCENE amount of gospel in the house. Gospel is the forefather of Soul, Funk, and RnB.

TLDR: RnB and its fathers soul and funk, and its father Gospel were pivotal to Rap/HipHop. The lack of soul of hiphop can be related to lack of respect of these genres.

etc

People like Peter Rosensburg are great examples.

I didn’t listen to r&b or soul music on my own till Weeknd and Pnd tbh.

but my parents always played stuff like Frankie Beverly and Maze, Stevie, Marvin, luther, Jill Scott, Whitney, etc

dont really agree or disagree, cool thread idea tho

don’t necessarily agree with you op but it’s a good discussion idea

"improving the discussion in the music section"

"Aight so don't trust these fans' opinions"

Curtis Mayfield had bars

this dude didn't grow up with r&b y'all

i think those who grew up on soul, funk and rnb just have a greater appreciation for the foundation of black music as a whole. they have a broader view and possibly hear things a little different, but it’s not to say those who haven’t been raised on that foundation can’t have good opinions on hip hop too, because there are so many sub-genres and even genreless forms of modern music now - it’s accessible to anybody

it also begs the question about the research and digging of music too. if you haven’t been raised in such, are you willing to educate yourself?

90''s r&b is the goated era

Kind of a weird thread

Most RnB I've heard is boring

I didn't grow up with RnB

So you’re probably who OP is talking about unfortunately

I noticed people that didnt grow up with r&b and rap in general are more easily impressed

both can be true

Most overrated in my opinion.

yeah probably idc if people take my opinions seriously

it seems like a weird way to start a conversation though. Like is the goal of the thread for a bunch of people to agree with each other

Different strokes

I think his real goal was to show how important r&b/soul music is to the foundation of hip hop but he might’ve been too exclusionary

I mean it's just weirdly antagonistic to make a thread in order to exclude people. Great thread series idea, which I'm all for, but it seems negative

Yeah if that was the goal the title is kinda weird

there's a reason why people like Snoop says George Clinton and Parliament are his all time favorites

Feel like jazz is more important as the foundation of hip-hop. But I guess I only feel that way because R&B is pretty much a fusion of jazz and blues.

If they can’t sing along to a Kem song, I don’t wanna hear their opinion!