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  • Jan 20, 2021

    I came to this conclusion a while ago, completely agree.

  • Jan 20, 2021
    Marcus is Dust

    I mean it's just weirdly antagonistic to make a thread in order to exclude people. Great thread series idea, which I'm all for, but it seems negative

    I switched it up

  • Jan 20, 2021
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    Smacked Voodoo

    Feel like jazz is more important as the foundation of hip-hop. But I guess I only feel that way because R&B is pretty much a fusion of jazz and blues.

    Niggas disrespect jazz so much these days unfortunately

  • Jan 20, 2021
    Cant pick

    Kind of a weird thread

    Most RnB I've heard is boring

    I didn't grow up with RnB

    RnB boring? Nooooo

  • Jan 20, 2021

    OP speaking facts.

  • Jan 20, 2021
    SHAQUILLE

    I didn’t listen to r&b or soul music on my own till Weeknd and Pnd tbh.

    but my parents always played stuff like Frankie Beverly and Maze, Stevie, Marvin, luther, Jill Scott, Whitney, etc

    and this is what i’m grateful to my parents for. an example is when to pimp a butterfly dropped, i was 18 and my friends did not understand my appreciation for that album at such an age aside from it being a classic regardless. it just felt like an album of home to me - i could have written a dissertation. but to the average hip hop listener, it was either an ok album, critic bait, a great album (but still couldn’t grasp the direction), etc. it’s a beautiful foundation to have and shouldn’t be taken for granted

  • Jan 20, 2021
    quadra

    If they can’t sing along to a Kem song, I don’t wanna hear their opinion!

    HEY GURL
    BAY BAY

  • Jan 20, 2021

    I was into hip hop for a lil bit but I’m gravitating back into stuff that sounds like what I grew up with. Prince was one of the first Artists I really followed like that cause my dad used to play him all the time

  • Jan 20, 2021

    ion even remember my moms playing music at all while I was a yungin, just know when I heard that 50 I was hooked

  • Jan 20, 2021
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    SHAQUILLE

    I think his real goal was to show how important r&b/soul music is to the foundation of hip hop but he might’ve been too exclusionary

    Word. I think it's a good idea tho.

    Like, as someone who grew up listening to no RnB, I'd be interested in checking out a list of essentials if someone makes one

  • Jan 20, 2021
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    SHAQUILLE

    Niggas disrespect jazz so much these days unfortunately

    Disgusting honestly. I see jazz disrespect as disrespect to black music in general.

  • Jan 20, 2021
    SHAQUILLE

    Niggas disrespect jazz so much these days unfortunately

    s*** like this smh lol

  • Jan 20, 2021
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    Marcus is Dust

    Word. I think it's a good idea tho.

    Like, as someone who grew up listening to no RnB, I'd be interested in checking out a list of essentials if someone makes one

    maze and frankie beverley’s discography
    marvin gaye - i want you; what’s going on; here, my dear
    prince - purple rain; sign o’ the times
    curtis mayfield - curtis
    d’angelo - brown sugar; voodoo; black messiah (check out his voodoo outtakes floating on the internet too)
    stevie wonder - innerversions; songs in the key of life
    mary j blige - my life; what’s the 411
    aaliyah - self titled; one in a million
    swv - it’s about time

    there’s a lot more but you can start on these. feel free to hit me if you need more

  • Jan 20, 2021
    Marcus is Dust

    Word. I think it's a good idea tho.

    Like, as someone who grew up listening to no RnB, I'd be interested in checking out a list of essentials if someone makes one

    Marvin Gaye
    Stevie wonder
    Isley brothers
    Frankie Beverly & Maze
    The supremes (to this day the biggest female group ever. Like 12 number ones)
    Dangelo
    Maxwell
    New edition- that includes Bobby brown solo work and bel biv devoe
    R Kelly
    Brandi
    Jill Scott
    Erykah Badu
    Lauryn Hill
    Al green
    Rick James
    Usher

  • Jan 20, 2021
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    Cant pick

    Kind of a weird thread

    Most RnB I've heard is boring

    I didn't grow up with RnB

    you have to have incredibly s*** taste in music to believe this

  • Jan 20, 2021
    Sinewave

    you have to have incredibly s*** taste in music to believe this

    i do definitely

  • Jan 20, 2021
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    Smacked Voodoo

    Disgusting honestly. I see jazz disrespect as disrespect to black music in general.

    man i swear jazz be a personal genre - you play that around people and they think you’re pretentious or something smh. crafted some of the most beautiful compositions i’ve ever heard

  • Jan 20, 2021
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    I listen to more R&B than hiphop as I've grown older. Grew up on both. Mom's favorite artist were Luther Vandross and Whitney Houston. Dad listened to all the old heads like Marvin Gaye, Four Tops, Bobby Womack, etc. My uncles used to sing in a group.

    I also end up listening to newer artist this generation that feature a more soul sound like Emily King, Raveena, Mahalia, Jamila Woods, etc.

  • Jan 20, 2021
    JaeRell

    I listen to more R&B than hiphop as I've grown older. Grew up on both. Mom's favorite artist were Luther Vandross and Whitney Houston. Dad listened to all the old heads like Marvin Gaye, Four Tops, Bobby Womack, etc. My uncles used to sing in a group.

    I also end up listening to newer artist this generation that feature a more soul sound like Emily King, Raveena, Mahalia, Jamila Woods, etc.

    jamila woods is so goated.

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    BLUE NOTE

    man i swear jazz be a personal genre - you play that around people and they think you’re pretentious or something smh. crafted some of the most beautiful compositions i’ve ever heard

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    BLUE NOTE

    man i swear jazz be a personal genre - you play that around people and they think you’re pretentious or something smh. crafted some of the most beautiful compositions i’ve ever heard

    People be asking "How do I get jazz?"

    Like...you just listen to it and appreciate the jam

  • Jan 20, 2021
    soccerfanj
    Weekly where I chop it up, hopefully improving the discussion in the music section.

    People who don't listen to RnB I always give the side eye.

    RnB (including Funk, Soul, and more) are the the foundations of hiphop. Many of the Classic songs that are were created were literally copy and pasted samples with some drums/extra of soul/rnb classics (IE Today was a good day, etc)

    RnB offers the soul that hip hop/rap needs. RnB offers a balance for hiphop historically.

    Although I didn't grow up listening to older RnB music due to my parents (particularly mother) being heavy Christian, my mother played an OBSCENE amount of gospel in the house. Gospel is the forefather of Soul, Funk, and RnB.

    TLDR: RnB and its fathers soul and funk, and its father Gospel were pivotal to Rap/HipHop. The lack of soul of hiphop can be related to lack of respect of these genres.

    reading that OP got me like.... RnB getting love

  • Jan 20, 2021

    im vibin w this op

  • Jan 20, 2021
    Smacked Voodoo

    People be asking "How do I get jazz?"

    Like...you just listen to it and appreciate the jam

    i think that comes from the stereotype that jazz is either: 1) a bunch of noise too hard to get into or 2) elevator music.

    when in reality there's so much beauty to explore

  • Jan 20, 2021
    aaaaaaaaaa
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je2tpX6Z-QA

    this is exactly what love sounds like in auditory form. beautiful

    speaking of love, a trumpet player called marquis hill dropped a jazz body of work called ‘the love tape’ music to die for and so soft on the ears. check that out - serene. here’s a track: