I mean it's just weirdly antagonistic to make a thread in order to exclude people. Great thread series idea, which I'm all for, but it seems negative
I switched it up
Feel like jazz is more important as the foundation of hip-hop. But I guess I only feel that way because R&B is pretty much a fusion of jazz and blues.
Niggas disrespect jazz so much these days unfortunately
Kind of a weird thread
Most RnB I've heard is boring
I didn't grow up with RnB
RnB boring? Nooooo
I didn’t listen to r&b or soul music on my own till Weeknd and Pnd tbh.
but my parents always played stuff like Frankie Beverly and Maze, Stevie, Marvin, luther, Jill Scott, Whitney, etc
and this is what i’m grateful to my parents for. an example is when to pimp a butterfly dropped, i was 18 and my friends did not understand my appreciation for that album at such an age aside from it being a classic regardless. it just felt like an album of home to me - i could have written a dissertation. but to the average hip hop listener, it was either an ok album, critic bait, a great album (but still couldn’t grasp the direction), etc. it’s a beautiful foundation to have and shouldn’t be taken for granted
If they can’t sing along to a Kem song, I don’t wanna hear their opinion!
HEY GURL
BAY BAY
I was into hip hop for a lil bit but I’m gravitating back into stuff that sounds like what I grew up with. Prince was one of the first Artists I really followed like that cause my dad used to play him all the time
ion even remember my moms playing music at all while I was a yungin, just know when I heard that 50 I was hooked
I think his real goal was to show how important r&b/soul music is to the foundation of hip hop but he might’ve been too exclusionary
Word. I think it's a good idea tho.
Like, as someone who grew up listening to no RnB, I'd be interested in checking out a list of essentials if someone makes one
Niggas disrespect jazz so much these days unfortunately
Disgusting honestly. I see jazz disrespect as disrespect to black music in general.
Word. I think it's a good idea tho.
Like, as someone who grew up listening to no RnB, I'd be interested in checking out a list of essentials if someone makes one
maze and frankie beverley’s discography
marvin gaye - i want you; what’s going on; here, my dear
prince - purple rain; sign o’ the times
curtis mayfield - curtis
d’angelo - brown sugar; voodoo; black messiah (check out his voodoo outtakes floating on the internet too)
stevie wonder - innerversions; songs in the key of life
mary j blige - my life; what’s the 411
aaliyah - self titled; one in a million
swv - it’s about time
there’s a lot more but you can start on these. feel free to hit me if you need more
Word. I think it's a good idea tho.
Like, as someone who grew up listening to no RnB, I'd be interested in checking out a list of essentials if someone makes one
Marvin Gaye
Stevie wonder
Isley brothers
Frankie Beverly & Maze
The supremes (to this day the biggest female group ever. Like 12 number ones)
Dangelo
Maxwell
New edition- that includes Bobby brown solo work and bel biv devoe
R Kelly
Brandi
Jill Scott
Erykah Badu
Lauryn Hill
Al green
Rick James
Usher
Kind of a weird thread
Most RnB I've heard is boring
I didn't grow up with RnB
you have to have incredibly s*** taste in music to believe this
you have to have incredibly s*** taste in music to believe this
i do definitely
Disgusting honestly. I see jazz disrespect as disrespect to black music in general.
man i swear jazz be a personal genre - you play that around people and they think you’re pretentious or something smh. crafted some of the most beautiful compositions i’ve ever heard
I listen to more R&B than hiphop as I've grown older. Grew up on both. Mom's favorite artist were Luther Vandross and Whitney Houston. Dad listened to all the old heads like Marvin Gaye, Four Tops, Bobby Womack, etc. My uncles used to sing in a group.
I also end up listening to newer artist this generation that feature a more soul sound like Emily King, Raveena, Mahalia, Jamila Woods, etc.
I listen to more R&B than hiphop as I've grown older. Grew up on both. Mom's favorite artist were Luther Vandross and Whitney Houston. Dad listened to all the old heads like Marvin Gaye, Four Tops, Bobby Womack, etc. My uncles used to sing in a group.
I also end up listening to newer artist this generation that feature a more soul sound like Emily King, Raveena, Mahalia, Jamila Woods, etc.
jamila woods is so goated.
man i swear jazz be a personal genre - you play that around people and they think you’re pretentious or something smh. crafted some of the most beautiful compositions i’ve ever heard
man i swear jazz be a personal genre - you play that around people and they think you’re pretentious or something smh. crafted some of the most beautiful compositions i’ve ever heard
People be asking "How do I get jazz?"
Like...you just listen to it and appreciate the jam
People who don't listen to RnB I always give the side eye.
RnB (including Funk, Soul, and more) are the the foundations of hiphop. Many of the Classic songs that are were created were literally copy and pasted samples with some drums/extra of soul/rnb classics (IE Today was a good day, etc)
RnB offers the soul that hip hop/rap needs. RnB offers a balance for hiphop historically.
Although I didn't grow up listening to older RnB music due to my parents (particularly mother) being heavy Christian, my mother played an OBSCENE amount of gospel in the house. Gospel is the forefather of Soul, Funk, and RnB.
TLDR: RnB and its fathers soul and funk, and its father Gospel were pivotal to Rap/HipHop. The lack of soul of hiphop can be related to lack of respect of these genres.
reading that OP got me like....
RnB getting love
People be asking "How do I get jazz?"
Like...you just listen to it and appreciate the jam
i think that comes from the stereotype that jazz is either: 1) a bunch of noise too hard to get into or 2) elevator music.
when in reality there's so much beauty to explore
this is exactly what love sounds like in auditory form. beautiful
speaking of love, a trumpet player called marquis hill dropped a jazz body of work called ‘the love tape’ music to die for and so soft on the ears. check that out - serene. here’s a track: