Anna

2y

That times article on dimes square and tradcaths

commonwrongdoer

2y

link?

kiwi stan

2y

what’s the easiest way to get into consuming the bible and or other texts?

i’m more focused on awareness of the stories and ideals than diving into my own faith, so far

kiwi stan

2y

what’s the easiest way to get into consuming the bible and or other texts?

i’m more focused on awareness of the stories and ideals than diving into my own faith, so far

Cherrywine

2y

pantheistic beliefs are not anything new or profound. We are aware of them and told to reject them

kiwi stan

2y

what’s the easiest way to get into consuming the bible and or other texts?

i’m more focused on awareness of the stories and ideals than diving into my own faith, so far

mythic

2y

It is very unclear what point you are trying to make in all that you have said thus far, and truly if it does anything it is to highlight, for anyone who cares to read along with this discussion, the importance of religion itself and the disservice to the self that is resorting to a personal idolatrous pseudospirituality. The importance of religion is the importance of doctrine, of having the doctrinal foundation on which to stand, so that one does not flounder within this world of falsity and imitation that we occupy today.

What you said, that “most worldly religions are generally pointing to the same idea” is wrong, insofar as all authentic tradition is quite literally ‘pointing’ to, and expressing the same true reality, it is only that the ‘clothing’ is variegated. Christianity in this regard affirms that reality is more than just a ‘dream in the consciousness of god’, as do Hinduism and Buddhism. In fact, one has to ‘factor in’ to use your terminology, such things as ‘cultural and social difference’ to truly understand this, to ‘factor it out’ is to discredit it itself, as the Gospel of the Lord says “two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.”

A dream, as Plato says is only an effusion of sense-perception accumulated during the daytime, and as the great Muslim ibn Arabi says one is most at risk of attack by the Satan in sleep, the messages we perceive to receive in dreams serve as an expression of this and we therefore must not always trust our dreams, do you trust reality? Surely if you propound to be an expert on the doctrines of the Far East I’m sure you are familiar with the parable of the butterfly in the Zhuangzhi. How does one know that reality is not just a dream? Because we must know that it is not, because we must not fall into false-belief wherein we feel at liberty to discount faith and turn words like ‘nonduality’ into idols, and think that we are above honest worship, humility, charity and love. As Lao Tsu says ‘the generals place is on the right, and the lieutenants is on the left’. Saying that ‘nonduality is a matter of personal inquiry’ is saying nothing, you’re already an ‘individual’, what matters is who the individual is that you are to be.

cold mountain

2y

the idea that most of the major world religions are pointing to the same idea is not wrong at all, the proper term for it is something called perennialism, unfortunately social Darwinism and scientism has seeped so deeply into Western society and culture, that people have gotten it into their minds that one religion has to have the answer, and Christians are the ones who struggle with this the most, they'll purposefully ignore and disregard any and all similarities with any other religions' truths because the mountain top complex is internalized and proselytized from a young age.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-file-manager/file/5e414754bf6199bf0ac27032/Introduction-Religious-Studies-Archive.pdf

'In a very influential book called Mysticism and Philosophy (1960), which was published five years before the first issue of Religious Studies, Stace defends (among other things) narrow perennialism. He claims that there are two fundamental sorts of mystical experience, each of which can be found in all cultures and religions and in all historical periods. The first is extrovertive mystical experience. This experience occurs when, looking outward with one's senses and observing nature in all its variety, one becomesaware of an underlying oneness to it all and of one's unity with that oneness. The second major type is introvertive. In order to have an introvertive mystical experience, one must learn (usually after extensive training and practice) to look inward and to empty one's consciousness of its ordinary contents."

there's an unmistakable consistency of the reports of these religious and mystical experiences in just about every religion, there is a reason why you can find pantheistic themes, the concept of One, the concept of "the real" - the ineffable from the Brahman, Holy Spirit and the Tao, all of these things are truths that were stumbled upon over and over again through fervent seeking, rituals and meditation. some Hindus believe that Jesus was a descendant of Krishna, same with Muhammad etc. all in all, it all distills to one source and one God. even all of the ancient religions were primarily animistic.

there is nothing pseudo-spiritualist to it at all, if anything, you niggas in here absolutely attached to the very idea that Christianity is 100% infallible and that there is only one way to enlightenment (and there is indeed one way to enlightenment, because no matter what religion you practice, pretty much everyone reaches the same state of theosis) is pseudo-spiritualistic, and is the exact reason why there's so many atheists and idolaters running rampant today. you niggas have done absolutely irreparable damage to the very concept of God and spirituality in general through the swallowing and digesting of dogma passed on from generation to generation, and it is honestly very sad. i pray that whatever is up there has mercy on us as the ages wear on, because the truth is slowly but surely shrinking, and false prophets + the blind leading the blind are leading all of each other into a self-indulgent nihilism disguised as "true" spirituality. but it is what it is. om tat sat.

cold mountain

2y

the idea that most of the major world religions are pointing to the same idea is not wrong at all, the proper term for it is something called perennialism, unfortunately social Darwinism and scientism has seeped so deeply into Western society and culture, that people have gotten it into their minds that one religion has to have the answer, and Christians are the ones who struggle with this the most, they'll purposefully ignore and disregard any and all similarities with any other religions' truths because the mountain top complex is internalized and proselytized from a young age.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-file-manager/file/5e414754bf6199bf0ac27032/Introduction-Religious-Studies-Archive.pdf

'In a very influential book called Mysticism and Philosophy (1960), which was published five years before the first issue of Religious Studies, Stace defends (among other things) narrow perennialism. He claims that there are two fundamental sorts of mystical experience, each of which can be found in all cultures and religions and in all historical periods. The first is extrovertive mystical experience. This experience occurs when, looking outward with one's senses and observing nature in all its variety, one becomesaware of an underlying oneness to it all and of one's unity with that oneness. The second major type is introvertive. In order to have an introvertive mystical experience, one must learn (usually after extensive training and practice) to look inward and to empty one's consciousness of its ordinary contents."

there's an unmistakable consistency of the reports of these religious and mystical experiences in just about every religion, there is a reason why you can find pantheistic themes, the concept of One, the concept of "the real" - the ineffable from the Brahman, Holy Spirit and the Tao, all of these things are truths that were stumbled upon over and over again through fervent seeking, rituals and meditation. some Hindus believe that Jesus was a descendant of Krishna, same with Muhammad etc. all in all, it all distills to one source and one God. even all of the ancient religions were primarily animistic.

there is nothing pseudo-spiritualist to it at all, if anything, you niggas in here absolutely attached to the very idea that Christianity is 100% infallible and that there is only one way to enlightenment (and there is indeed one way to enlightenment, because no matter what religion you practice, pretty much everyone reaches the same state of theosis) is pseudo-spiritualistic, and is the exact reason why there's so many atheists and idolaters running rampant today. you niggas have done absolutely irreparable damage to the very concept of God and spirituality in general through the swallowing and digesting of dogma passed on from generation to generation, and it is honestly very sad. i pray that whatever is up there has mercy on us as the ages wear on, because the truth is slowly but surely shrinking, and false prophets + the blind leading the blind are leading all of each other into a self-indulgent nihilism disguised as "true" spirituality. but it is what it is. om tat sat.

cold mountain

2y

there's pantheistic ideas in the Bible, please bro

Cherrywine

2y

There’s not

Cherrywine

2y

There’s not

cold mountain

2y

anyways, haven't been to my local church in a hot minute, i seriously gotta put some time aside and go