Aug 10, 2020·edited
spongebobO yeah I heard about how the uighurs having the time of their lives in those camps it sounds incredible
I mean I was talking about the landlords hypothetically being sent to camp but interestingly enough there are posters here who actually think the uighurs are there to learn stuff
Socialist: “Huh, I’ve never seen anybody support the Chinese government on this site, what are you even talking about?”
- Aug 10, 2020
RASIEOh you got the masses on the line bro? Tell em to stop by the QuikTrip and pick me up a Sunkist. Thanks fam
”oh u got the masses on the line”Bro y’all gotta laugh at some point
Aug 10, 2020·2 replies
KOLLAPSPeople love to pretend like these governments weren’t founded by violent communists.
Revolution is violent, no one is under any assumption otherwise.
Aug 10, 2020·1 replyKOLLAPSPeople love to pretend like these governments weren’t founded by violent communists.
Yeah we’re comparing the trajectories of the CCP and USSR and so far (at least) it seems the economic reforms China adopted which were market-based in some instances and the Soviet Union’s reluctance to compromise and use anti-socialist ideas has meant that China is far better off in certain areas. I’m interested to see if this progresses.
- Aug 10, 2020·1 replyEnpax
Not really, capitalist Norway and Iceland have the majority or at least over 50% of primary energ supply from renewable sources while communist centrally planned North Korea and Cuba still have non renewable energy either at the same levels or lower than the Scandinavian countries. So having a centrally planned economy wouldn’t guarantee an ecologically friendly one, but it would guarantee an economy with lower quality and availability consumer goods
If you think about it there’s really no reason to not just be a social democrat. The free markets success is self evident and we’ve seen corporations be checked for the vast excesses by the welfare state. I mean you could argue that workers are bein “exploited” but not only are wages higher in these countries than in socialist ones, income inequality is actually around the same level (and in some cases lower) than in the Soviet Union, so what’s the point of central planning
The “exploited” in quotations ain’t necessary
Workers are being exploited period
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ARCADE GOONThe welfare mechanism of social democracy in 2020 is weakened by every corporation tax dodging to the Caymans. The golden age of social democracy only existed because far leftists put a fire under Europe's ass to the point where capitalists had to make concessions. Once the USSR fell, social democracy died out pretty much instantly and got replaced with neoliberalism with the likes of Blair or Schröder, since nobody was there to pressure the ruling classes. The social democrats discredited themselves and people prefered the conservative neoliberals since they were more honest about what they were doing than the rose-flagged neoliberals talking about solidarity while imposing austerity and dismantling state enterprises and welfare benefits.
Ok dis hard
- Aug 10, 2020·edited·1 replyspongebob
The “exploited” in quotations ain’t necessary
Workers are being exploited period
If they’re being exploited because their wages aren’t high enough, then well run socialist countries haven’t done more than well run free market countries to address this. If they’re being exploited because of how much wealth they don’t have compared to owners and executives then hey, it’s a good thing people like Bernie Sanders exist to introduce reforms in labor that would give workers a much larger proportional share of business stocks relative to any other western country while still maintaining a market economy
berniesanders.com/issues/corporate-accountability-and-democracy - Aug 10, 2020·1 replySynopsis
Revolution is violent, no one is under any assumption otherwise.
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HnDONDvJVE@spongebob appears to be
- Aug 10, 2020·1 reply
Damn this nigga too scared to argue bout some economics omg😂
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learning about what?
- Aug 10, 2020Synopsis
learning about what?
Sorry meant to quote someone else 😅
Angela the GOAT tho
- Aug 10, 2020·1 replywhiteboy magz
Yeah we’re comparing the trajectories of the CCP and USSR and so far (at least) it seems the economic reforms China adopted which were market-based in some instances and the Soviet Union’s reluctance to compromise and use anti-socialist ideas has meant that China is far better off in certain areas. I’m interested to see if this progresses.
You learnin bout this in school?
- Aug 10, 2020·2 replies
be skeptical of anyone who gets their education on communism/socialism etc., from formal education institutions.
Aug 10, 2020·1 replyKOLLAPSPeople love to pretend like these governments weren’t founded by violent communists.
Violence is only necessary because those in power won't give up power peacefully
- Aug 10, 2020·1 replyKOLLAPS
You learnin bout this in school?
Yeah we’re looking at their regimes and how they’ve dealt with changes since Mao/Stalin
Aug 10, 2020·1 replySynopsisbe skeptical of anyone who gets their education on communism/socialism etc., from formal education institutions.
i majored in communism
- Aug 10, 2020Frog
i majored in communism
thats the exception
Aug 10, 2020·1 replyThat loner post is stupid when a lot of Communists identify as such because of suffering under capitalism.
- Aug 10, 2020Scratchin Mamba
Violence is only necessary because those in power won't give up power peacefully
Yessir! I’m not the one denying this
@spongebob - Aug 10, 2020·2 repliesSynopsis
be skeptical of anyone who gets their education on communism/socialism etc., from formal education institutions.
Well unless they’re misinformed why does it matter?
- Aug 10, 2020·1 replyMulder
That loner post is stupid when a lot of Communists identify as such because of suffering under capitalism.
dude just thinks everyone on the internet who isn't a capitalist is just doing it for jokes or some s***. offensive af honestly.
- Aug 10, 2020·1 replyKOLLAPS
Well unless they’re misinformed why does it matter?
sounds like censorship to me bro. 😷
- Aug 10, 2020·1 replywhiteboy magz
Yeah we’re looking at their regimes and how they’ve dealt with changes since Mao/Stalin
That’s so dope where you going to school/what you majoring as?
- Aug 10, 2020·1 replyKOLLAPS
Well unless they’re misinformed why does it matter?
because if you get education on communism mainly from formal education, you likely are going to be misinformed.
