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  • Aug 3, 2020
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    Enpax

    Just because the majority of people here aren’t that political doesn’t make the claim that there are “3 communists, a dozen social democrats, and 500 guys who dream of being landlords” true. The facts are around half of the people on the site as a whole are pretty sympathetic to socialism, it’s not like the base of the politics sxn is radically different from the entire site

    Do I really need to explain that was hyperbole? You're that dumb?

  • Aug 3, 2020
    Enpax

    Just because the majority of people here aren’t that political doesn’t make the claim that there are “3 communists, a dozen social democrats, and 500 guys who dream of being landlords” true. The facts are around half of the people on the site as a whole are pretty sympathetic to socialism, it’s not like the base of the politics sxn is radically different from the entire site

    selection bias

  • Aug 3, 2020
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    Mango

    There's 3 communists, a dozen social democrats, and 500 guys who dream of being landlords while they lose their money in cryptocurrency schemes and day trading.

    I was surprised to find out just how many posters were bootlickers there. Anyway, private property should pretty much be abolished

  • Aug 3, 2020
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    ARCADE GOON

    we had a thread on ktt1 for years. many of the users are well-read but there is no point in discussing the ABCs of communism with people who only have basic cold-war-propganda-tier knowledge so we keep to s***-posting most of the time. i would much rather discuss these topics in real life with real people, which i do, than on a music forum. you can't reasonably convince someone of something or exchange ideas online. the online arguments i have here and there are more for the readership rather than to convince the person i am talking to.

    I will counter your argument, I was someone who in December was a SocDem but started down the road to Socialism back in January. I got a lot of knowledge and tools from guys off this forum.

  • Aug 3, 2020
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    Mango

    Do I really need to explain that was hyperbole? You're that dumb?

    I know you didn’t actually mean 500 you brain dead weirdo, I’m saying the libertarians and conservatives don’t outnumber the socialists at all

  • Aug 3, 2020
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    Enpax

    I know you didn’t actually mean 500 you brain dead weirdo, I’m saying the libertarians and conservatives don’t outnumber the socialists at all

    Yeah, most people aren't too engaged with politics. That's the point. Which makes them what? (Leading a horse to water here)

  • Aug 3, 2020
    Krillin

    shout out all my communists itt

  • Aug 3, 2020
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    Mango

    Yeah, most people aren't too engaged with politics. That's the point. Which makes them what? (Leading a horse to water here)

    Your claim is that the majority of the site is apolitical and therefore socialists as a whole are heavily outnumbered

    What if I told you that half of these “apolitical” people are more sympathetic to socialism than capitalism

    Also the identity of most of the site is kind of irrelevant because this is a music forum. The politics sxn is where people actually form political groups so yeah, I’d say there’s more people who’ve been drawn to socialism as a result of spending time here than in most other sites

  • Aug 3, 2020
    Krillin

    shout out all my communists itt

  • Aug 3, 2020
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    Enpax

    Your claim is that the majority of the site is apolitical and therefore socialists as a whole are heavily outnumbered

    What if I told you that half of these “apolitical” people are more sympathetic to socialism than capitalism

    Also the identity of most of the site is kind of irrelevant because this is a music forum. The politics sxn is where people actually form political groups so yeah, I’d say there’s more people who’ve been drawn to socialism as a result of spending time here than in most other sites

    where u getting these fax 💯💯

  • Aug 3, 2020
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    Enpax

    Your claim is that the majority of the site is apolitical and therefore socialists as a whole are heavily outnumbered

    What if I told you that half of these “apolitical” people are more sympathetic to socialism than capitalism

    Also the identity of most of the site is kind of irrelevant because this is a music forum. The politics sxn is where people actually form political groups so yeah, I’d say there’s more people who’ve been drawn to socialism as a result of spending time here than in most other sites

    Socialism and capitalism are not exclusive. Socialism is perfectly compatible with a mixed economy. It's an argument for more humane capitalism. A social safety net. A society.

    But again, most users on here are not concerned with the act of masturbation known as ideology. They're peasants for Drake who desperately want to own a McDonalds franchise and rental properties so they can buy a Tesla.

  • Aug 3, 2020
    Frog

    where u getting these fax 💯💯

    Do you really, honestly, truly think you guys are a minority here. Or at least not like at minimum 40%

  • Aug 3, 2020
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    Mango

    Socialism and capitalism are not exclusive. Socialism is perfectly compatible with a mixed economy. It's an argument for more humane capitalism. A social safety net. A society.

    But again, most users on here are not concerned with the act of masturbation known as ideology. They're peasants for Drake who desperately want to own a McDonalds franchise and rental properties so they can buy a Tesla.

    “Humane capitalism” isn’t socialism, it’s just capitalism. Also that doesn’t really refute anything I said.

    I’m not saying most people here are that concerned with political ideology, what I’m saying is there are more people who are left wing than right wing. I mean there are some guys who are entirely apolitical but you are vastly overestimating the number of guys who fantasize about being business owners at some point in time

  • Aug 3, 2020

    I f*** with any ideology that's against hoarding wealth

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    Cudderwalks

    I will counter your argument, I was someone who in December was a SocDem but started down the road to Socialism back in January. I got a lot of knowledge and tools from guys off this forum.

    i helped convince a user or two on ktt of socialism too. i don't wanna name them because in the end it's everybody's personal history and journey that leads them to reject capitalism, not one particular person on a forum. your life experience and worldview has led you to be receptive to this information in the first place. you could have stayed a socdem your entire life and regarded socialism as some fantasy or whatever, but you didn't. so give yourself some credit too in educating yourself

  • Aug 3, 2020
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    Enpax

    “Humane capitalism” isn’t socialism, it’s just capitalism. Also that doesn’t really refute anything I said.

    I’m not saying most people here are that concerned with political ideology, what I’m saying is there are more people who are left wing than right wing. I mean there are some guys who are entirely apolitical but you are vastly overestimating the number of guys who fantasize about being business owners at some point in time

    Capitalism is inherently exploitative however the humanity is in restricting the market to non-essentials. Few people want anything more than a Scandanavian style economy. They're capitalists and many self-proclaimed democratic socialists are as well.

    And if you really think more people are into this nerd s*** than wanting a new pair of Yeezys your brain has been warped by Twitter.

  • Aug 3, 2020
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    Mango

    Capitalism is inherently exploitative however the humanity is in restricting the market to non-essentials. Few people want anything more than a Scandanavian style economy. They're capitalists and many self-proclaimed democratic socialists are as well.

    And if you really think more people are into this nerd s*** than wanting a new pair of Yeezys your brain has been warped by Twitter.

    Literally haven’t once said most people on this site or the world in general care more about politics than other things. What I’m saying is socialists aren’t a small minority or even expressing a controversial opinion when it’s here. Of the political guys here, most are leftists. Of the non political guys here 40-50% express some sympathy to socialism, even if they don’t strongly understand it

    If you’re a democratic socialist you want more than a Scandinavian style economy. Bernie Sanders, AOC, and online democratic socialist want more than a Scandinavian style economy. If you call yourself a socialist and think a Scandinavian style economy is good enough then you’re not a socialist

  • Aug 3, 2020
    Hamington

    I was surprised to find out just how many posters were bootlickers there. Anyway, private property should pretty much be abolished

    yikes

  • Aug 4, 2020
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    Enpax

    Literally haven’t once said most people on this site or the world in general care more about politics than other things. What I’m saying is socialists aren’t a small minority or even expressing a controversial opinion when it’s here. Of the political guys here, most are leftists. Of the non political guys here 40-50% express some sympathy to socialism, even if they don’t strongly understand it

    If you’re a democratic socialist you want more than a Scandinavian style economy. Bernie Sanders, AOC, and online democratic socialist want more than a Scandinavian style economy. If you call yourself a socialist and think a Scandinavian style economy is good enough then you’re not a socialist

    AOC called herself a capitalist or whatever the other day (or maybe last year) forgot who i saw post it think it was @Scratchin_Bandit

  • Aug 4, 2020
    Frog

    AOC called herself a capitalist or whatever the other day (or maybe last year) forgot who i saw post it think it was @Scratchin_Bandit

    I guess she’s changed then lol. But Bernie Sanders is actually a democratic socialist, that’s for sure. And seeing as I voted for him it’s not exactly a bad thing in this case

  • Aug 4, 2020
    ARCADE GOON

    we had a thread on ktt1 for years. many of the users are well-read but there is no point in discussing the ABCs of communism with people who only have basic cold-war-propganda-tier knowledge so we keep to s***-posting most of the time. i would much rather discuss these topics in real life with real people, which i do, than on a music forum. you can't reasonably convince someone of something or exchange ideas online. the online arguments i have here and there are more for the readership rather than to convince the person i am talking to.

    I agree for the most part but KTT is probably the reason I actually went out of my way to learn about Marxism. I wouldn’t absolutely dismiss online discourse

  • Aug 4, 2020
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    I’m cool with communist tbh just don’t push your commie bullshit, communist fantasize about a revolution more than weirdos who want a zombie apocalypse

  • Aug 4, 2020
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    Synopsis

    RT and 1 anarchist

    Who is an anarchist here