This letter is better than Ivy League Schools... Ask your local black studies professor whether they're receiving tenure.

Cornel West is b**** made

20% have parents whose salaries...combined.. are below 65k

not just 20% of the total student population is lower or middle class.

you're really bad at explaining your arguments
you just shout "ivy league bad thing!!!" and then do some cryhah s*** when asked to even say 1 material thing

fr this ain't even begin as some aggressive thing, i dunno what got you tight about relating your words to actual reality instead of shouting abstract criticisms into the ether

It’s obviously not a graduated scale of income at harvard

It’s not like 20% have that lower middle class income then another 30% have 70-100k/yr household no it’s literally that small percentage then the vast remainder of students are literal from ultra wealthy to high-upper middle class homes

The MEDIAN family income is 170k/yr. here are the official figures which btw dnt even corroborate that 20% lower income figure

Median family income $168,800
Average income percentile 79th
Share of students from top 0.1% 3%
...from top 1% 15%
...from top 5% 39%
...from top 10% 53%
...from top 20% 67%
...from bottom 20% 4.5%

Share of students from .1% income bracket is 3%??? That’s an over representation of the ultra wealthy by a factor of 30 times!!!

Not to talk of the the top 1%-10% income bracket having an OUTRIGHT majority of student representation

These schools aren’t for the average kid man just stop.

To your other point I don’t need to know what specific research your institution is conducting but if your student body is so skewed towards the well off it isn’t worth it period just my values

1 why are you so fixated on the numbers i get that i provided a stat but you realize this whole thing was about getting you to provide material info as opposed to abstract s*** right? so for you to go ham on the 1 piece of material info in dis convo (that u didnt even provide) is wack in regards to the argument. i feel like u jus ignorin the point of what i was initially trying to ask in favor of dunking on a stat

2 no s*** your figures don't corroborate the 20% lower income figure -- those numbers go from top 20% (upper class) to bottom 20% (part of, but not the entire lower income spectrum) with no mention of anythin in between

if you're at the top of that bottom 20% your family's making something around 26k. so 4.5% of harvard students come from families making at most 26k, perhaps less. and 67% come from the top 20, which if you're at the bottom of, is making like 150k.

67 + 4.5 = 71.5

do you think that other ~30% is just completely irrelevant? perhaps your source didn't say anything about it, but if it did and u just kept that part out... i can't confirm harvard's numbers, but if your source says that they have 4.5% kids who come from ~26k or less, and harvard is setting their upper threshold of "lower family income" at 65k, then yeah i'm not too doubtful that the other 30% of students (whose parents' income is apparently a mystery) will cover the wide spectrum between 26k and 150k. i doubt they're all hanging at 148k. maybe enough of that 30% will cover the 15% needed to make harvard's claim right

the 4.5% stat is a good thing in itself. there's no surprise that harvard and the ivy league schools are schools for rich people; that was never the argument.

so yeah, in summary, it's not shocking that your source doesn't corroborate harvard's claim when your source is lacking the info necessary to even address harvard's claim

edit: ok saw ur edit; there's no answer to my question then. glad we talked bout this stupid 20% number

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Admirable
Just read it he had some real reasons to get out
These top unis aren't ethical at all

They do it in fear of losing donations