Oh. I had no idea this was the predominant strain in my country (80% BA.2 20% BA.1)

Ain't s*** to worry about. I'm only double vaxxed and my countries 35 days deep into the outbreak and cases already peaked, never got it

Global endemic otw

This dude at work months ago was telling me how he knew someone high up that worked for WHO and said the new variant was so much worse and how it would cripple the US and we don’t know what’s coming

I just couldn’t stop laughing in my head , like okay sure dude. Like what do you gain from making up stories like that.

Lol why are you posting those sources in here?

You never struck me as a Q conspiracy type

The stuff about the bat coronavirus gain-of-function research activities by Ralph Baric, Peter Daszak, EcoHealth, and DTRA’s PREDICT are all very real and very concerning. I learned about it here nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/article/coronavirus-lab-escape-theory.html
not from anything Q affiliated

and I haven’t looked too far into it just yet but the Hunter Biden laptop leaks appear real and his shady appointments and dealings in Ukraine are suspicious to say the least

If you don’t get the f*** on with this bass pro shop fanfiction

Seems real so far

You just named a handful of right wing conspiracy targets that all source back to Trump’s determination to blame this on China and Obama-era programs because he couldn’t handle an ego bruise from the existence of a pandemic under his watch, and you’re also trying to say that Biden’s crackhead son just happens to have ties to those same scientists on the magical laptop that keeps popping up conveniently right when something crazy comes out around the Jan 6th investigation?

Yeah you’re right seems real

I mean, go ahead and read the article(s). I haven’t said anything that hasn’t been reported by reputable mainstream news sources.

It all just so happens to benefit Republicans or Q or whoever. Doesn’t change the fact that it’s true and real

not the right thread for this discussion, but I think that Q is in large part an op anyway

I mean granted I haven’t read this Daily Mail one so I’ll give it a read to be fair, but believe me when I say I’ve been kept all the way up to date with these theories from my headass cousin and coworkers for the past few years. Read up about what actually happens with GOF research, what EcoHealth and other forms actually do, and the story of the chain of possession of that laptop. It all falls apart almost immediately under scrutiny. Ironically, Hunter almost certainly had some shady deals with Ukraine, and it almost seems like the laptop being as outlandish and blatantly fake as it is is designed to conflate his actual dealings with conspiracy. But that’s also another thread.

Back to COVID: I’m sorry, but there’s no grand truth behind this thing that you or anyone else will find on YouTube or in one of these gish gallop “do your own research” data dumps. Viruses occur and mutate in nature constantly. Occam’s razor indicates that it probably came from a wet market if anything, and guess what? That f***ing sucks, but we can’t put the genie back into the bottle. Scientists like the ones you mentioned are the people actively trying to predict the next mutations so that we can get ahead of this thing, and thanks to the insane work done over the past two years, we’re making progress. But it’s beyond frustrating to me to keep hearing the “but but but lab leak!!” s*** from the same people who get addicted to the thrill of “having an open mind” and fall down rabbit holes designed to confirm their own biases, and then cause this bullshit to continue because they think they’re above preventative measures and that they know better than the people who were telling us something like this could happen and put years of their lives behind those prevention plans that all went out the window immediately when s*** actually hit the fan.

God damn this daily mail article is absolutely braindead. The entire thing is predicated on the validity of these screenshots that we entirely have to take their word on, the entire last 4 paragraphs are extrapolation, the people interviewed are obviously biased (guy from the CIA apparently says “it certainly seems weird” oh wow!) and the article even acknowledges that its angle is being echoed by the Russian state department, but uh, probably still worth looking into huh!

I mean look at this objectively and tell me the entire thing isn’t just way too convenient, especially considering the timing right around when the 7hr phone log gap s*** came out

the nymag article is the important one to read. real long but full of great info. Also GoF is not some godsend research technique. it has been derided by years by scientists for the increased danger that comes with creating new diseases or strengthening existing ones - and the risk of laboratory leak, which actually happens scarily often. Again, I’ll emphasize the importance of the nymag article. It’s not Q stuff, they just latched on bc it helps their case.

and I don’t buy it’s all in good faith either, given the history of EcoHealth’s main funders, DTRA and USAID. Occam’s razor, imo, actually suggests that there was a lab leak from the place that was working on creating more transmissible bat coronaviruses.

With respect to Hunter: I haven’t looked at anything regarding the laptop, but i know that many mainstream sources (including WaPo and NYT) are now doing a 180 and saying that the emails are real

Tbf, the daily mail article (amongst others) is 6 days old and the Trump phonecall stuff only just came out yesterday

Didn’t Hunter apologize for the nword meme texts that were found on his devices? I know for sure I saw a video of him smoking crack and getting a footjob. There is at least SOME legitimacy to leaks of his s***

Went ahead and read it this morning, and you’re right that it does summarize the whole discussion very well. I do think it’s unnecessarily editorialized, but such is modern journalism.

One of my biggest objections is to the idea that the initial 2012 incident couldn’t have led to the spread of the virus because we’d have seen it in the nurses treating them. We know that coronaviruses are inherently disposed to adapt to the more likely scenario to facilitate spread, and we know that the end result (at present at least) is a highly communicable disease that can present with zero or very mild symptoms that could be mistaken for a cold or a flu. It’s entirely reasonable to me that that virus could have continued to mutate unnoticed while being identified as a flu until it was able to make its way to a host at the wet market (7hrs away is much less unreasonable over 7 years, in this case) where it was able to infect at a much larger scale and with more serious symptoms.

One thing I do agree with the article on is that we can’t rule out a lab leak. However, the lab leak hypothesis now serves much more of a political purpose than any kind of fact finding. Therefore, I think the entire discussion is unproductive when the virus continues to mutate and infect. It would have been awesome if we could’ve been transparent from the start, but thanks to having the worst possible leadership at the time and our already hyper-politicized culture, I have low faith that the outcome would be any better if the WIV came out and said hey, yeah, we think it could’ve been us. If anything, we’d probably have seen more racially-motivated attacks and an even less productive discourse around the vaccine.

And to your other point, I think we may have to agree to disagree on having faith in scientists. GOF research is helping us move toward a future where vaccines and treatments occur on an expedited scale the same way the COVID ones did. Yes, there’s risk. No, I’m not willing to throw an entire discipline out based on a hypothesis. Yes, I wish this conversation was happening in the public forum rather than being relegated to the shadows where conspiracy can take hold, but, no, I don’t have faith that our general public would discuss it in good faith and I understand the actions of scientists now having to defend their life’s work against people who’ve never stepped foot in a lab or read an academic paper.

And for the record, Hunter did not apologize for the n word texts, likely because they don’t seem real. I’m going to go out on a limb here without seeking out those videos and assume that the footjob and crack stuff fall in a similar category. Again - there’s actual smoke there with his recorded business dealings, but by focusing on the shiny object we’re losing the plot of nepotism and government corruption. And I’d bet that’s because strip away the laptop and his case becomes very similar to that of the Trump children, which the people propagating that shiny object are incentivized to avoid.

I kind of want to do an antibody test to see if I’ve already had Omicron/Delta without knowing.

I mean, I’ve been working retail at one of the busiest H&M’s in the entire country for a year now, and for the past 6 months or so I’d say mask compliance varies between 30-40% among customers.

For the majority of the time I’ve been wearing KN95s, but even still, what are the chances I HAVEN’T caught either of those throughout all this time.

I feel that. I would def be curious myself, but I thought those tests weren’t that accurate?

This over right?

Honestly you probably won’t get it there. i didn’t get s*** until I went out to eat and family visited over. Now I just went out bc I had to look for a car and I’m sick again.

His arms toned asl

im trying to get this too

thats what the booster does to you

If you can be in spots where there isn't Delta. Then you should do life as normal