You’re in a billboard thread using that as justification for it falling off. Seems kind of hypocritical to do that and then turn around and say it doesn’t matter for Drake or whatever
except i’ve never used sales as a justification for why hip-hop is dead
i’ve always talked about how one dimensional and less talented the newer “stars” are in comparison to previous one
relevancy and sales are just a cherry
The issue with Trap is how little deviation or skill is required for it, so for every good song/project there's 500 that are all indistinguishable and forgettable garbage.
It made monotone voices, zero unique personality, lowest budget beats ever, and lack of flow more acceptable and standard.
Nowadays, yea. But during the trap era their was definitely more uniqueness and variety back then.
Rap lost its musical touch over the years, culture got too lost in clout and toxic s***
i think overall the idea of mainstream music itself is dying. Nobody in real life is listening to the songs on billboard. All i see is people listening to old music catalogue or some niche stuff they like.
been revisiting 00s hip hop and r&b hits. bro... that generation RULED the charts with a wide variety of sounds. we had some boom bap hits, up tempo r&b hits, straight 808 club heavy hits, s*** even crossover jams. new generation should take notes, i think gen z is starving for this sort of era because of their fascination with y2k aesthetic. we too busy just sampling the hits of that time tho... that ain't how you really revive the era tho. it's more than replicating the sound, you have to embody the aura and essence.
Gen Z cosplayers can't copycat real style,charisma and skill. In the 2000s era, an album was a production, a single was a production, being sold as an Ep in stores. Artists aren't productions, especially not Hip Hop artists, rap fans eat alot of bullshit and like it, so A&Rs/execs are all about workrate now. 0 money invested in artist nowadays, besides image.
Hip hop is forever and will continue to influence most genres
exactly. these country and rock songs to come will sound like hip hop
Rock being on the rise is kinda fake news
Billboard combines Rock and Alternative so that includes Lana, Post Malone, Noah Kahan, Zach Bryan, Olivia, Billie, Mitski and others.
Nowadays, yea. But during the trap era their was definitely more uniqueness and variety back then.
Also streaming was prob def a blessing and curse for rap.
Obviously overall it made the music more accessible, gave it better numbers, etc.
But there's also the reality rappers basically have no quality control imposed on them now. Labels prob encouraging 40-track albums, and feel fine with them releasing 7 projects every year. It's sort of autodrive and if you have a fanbase they gonna spin it a few times and generate the income regardless.
Back in CD era you really had to narrow down the best songs for the album, and if that s*** flopped it was very hard to navigate from.
Now some of these rappers literally will release every single song they ever have recorded, and it's an issue when 85% of your music is actually indistinguishable trash.
Gen Z cosplayers can't copycat real style,charisma and skill. In the 2000s era, an album was a production, a single was a production, being sold as an Ep in stores. Artists aren't productions, especially not Hip Hop artists, rap fans eat alot of bullshit and like it, so A&Rs/execs are all about workrate now. 0 money invested in artist nowadays, besides image.
yea this all goes back to artist development.
but the opium truthers and plugnb stans on here told me i was old and washed and everything was actually just fine
this can’t be true
The genre was apparently saved by that terrible Yeat album
shoutout to kanye for making a rap song creative, insane, and weird enough to become an organic hit in the least hip-hop friendly music climate in over a decade.
shoutout to kanye for making a rap song creative, insane, and weird enough to become an organic hit in the least hip-hop friendly music climate in over a decade.
but the opium truthers and plugnb stans on here told me i was old and washed and everything was actually just fine
this can’t be true
what’d you say f*** me and melz for
What's "on the rise" is usually just whatever you can get white people age 16-30 to like and identify with at the time
Hip Hop had the whites for some time, now they're back listening to Morgan Wallen, Noah Kahan and Jellyroll
They'll be back, we're always here
What's "on the rise" is usually just whatever you can get white people age 16-30 to like and identify with at the time
Hip Hop had the whites for some time, now they're back listening to Morgan Wallen, Noah Kahan and Jellyroll
They'll be back, we're always here
Is there any benefit to having a bunch of white kids listen to hip hop
Is there any benefit to having a bunch of white kids listen to hip hop
For the artist yes, for us niggas no
please point me to the rock that’s on the rise please
black country new road
SQUID
black midi
black country new road
SQUID
black midi
but isn't this thread referring to like acts on a mainstream level tho that's what i meant
The current era of rappers don't know how to make club hits, simply put.
We are in a period where rappers are just local gang members that have no real talent, no personality, nor know how to make catchy music. They are just rapping out a studio in their house for fun, no true passion. They didn't grow up obsessed with writing and creating music they just got bored and figured they could do it. The output they make appeals to a very specific demo (usually the hood in their local city). It's not music that appeals to a widespread mainstream audience.
Jack Harlow got the #1 song right now because he is a rapper who knows he isn't from the streets so he isn't trying to make a song about shooting 7 people. He focusing on making a catchy club hit.
Kanye, Drake, Cole, Kendrick, etc had so much appeal cause they weren't just portraying the generic trap king & jailbird image. That stuff does not go far and only appeals to a very narrow audience.
This 1000%
To many rappers are too worried about being the #1 street nigga and it’s effecting the music
Pop Smoke said it best
Is there any benefit to having a bunch of white kids listen to hip hop
New listeners can appreciate music and its history sometimes
Often times it's just a phase for them
Country is definitely on the come up but no black person I know is listening to country. The vultures have left rap which is perfect for real enthusiasts
I've had this theory based on an observation...
Hip hop's decline came almost directly after Chance's album failed and he become irrelevant. He was literally primed to be the next big one up.
I believe that if Chance’s album was actually good then the current street rap wave wouldn’t have came back