Creative intelligence is still not something a "special" few have and others don't have. It's not something on a genetic level.

Creative intelligence refers to the ability to successfully deal with new and unusual situations by drawing on existing knowledge and skills. For example, creative intelligence would be involved when using your imagination to write a short story, paint artwork, or create an advertisement.

Obviously Ye and Bey had some raw talent and natural understanding to their craft to begin with, they were just more passionate about it and more dedicated to reach a higher skill ceiling and always experiment.

Learning can happen through experience, which “trying it” would be. If everyone got the same life experiences, second to second, as someone famous they’d be the exact same way

Anybody can have creative intelligence but some people inherit creative intelligence, there will always be an heredity factor when it comes to the different types of intelligence.

You cannot make a less creative person more creative because a less creative person is less willing to experiment and move outta the water where the more creative person will be willing to experiment and take more risks.

What do you mean? Famous people don’t all have the same experiences whether growing up or in fame

creativity is basically being able to connect the dots between from past experiences to present new ideas

so you basically have to be a certain level of intelligent to do that, past that it's more of reflection of your personality and tendencies you picked up overtime. But the way your personality develops/habits is also impacted by your natural intelligence too.

What I'm tryna get at is its the experiences of life that makes you creative; living someone else's life is the allegory i used to explain that like if i or anyone else lived in ye’s shoes id be as creative

facts.

nothing exists in a vacuum. if you wanna use artists as an example look at how many artist copy their favorite artist(s) before eventually coming into their own. creativity is learned 100%

You can learn to sing but being a creative singer cant be learned

You contradicted yourself right when you said

You cannot make a less creative person more creative because a less creative person is less willing...

People are less willing to dedicate themselves to their craft and learn and understand more in the arts. There is no skill ceiling for art, only the ceiling that you created for yourself.

With understanding and learning any artistic skill comes experimentation and inspiration that fuels our creativity that will ultimately result in what becomes your own identity.
Most artist spend their whole life researching, learning and practicing because they are absolutely dedicated in exploring how far they could go, because they are overall passionate about they craft.

Those who are willing to learn and grow will undoubtedly bear fruit eventually. Of course I'm leaving out one factor that results towards becoming world renowned and successful, which is luck.

But even if Ye is a great artist in his own right, from a skill level standpoint on his production, Flying Lotus is objectively more skilled than ye just because of how much more knowledge he knows about production and spent his years learning it.

I will say there is a slight advantage on those who are already raised from a young age learning the arts, just like a kid being raised on a farm learning farming at a young age, or a kid learning coding.

I feel like there's a ton of factors you're missing here other than a person just being blessed by the creativity fairy at birth.
Dumb thread

Creativity is applied perspective. Everyone has a POV...

Creativity is not directly linked to succes there are too many other factors

eh

I made a mixtape and the cover art for it when i was 6. Where the f*** I learn that from? It's all natural everyone is creative in their own ways

id say im pretty creative but idk how i even learned (???) to be creative ???

Bruce Lee talks about creativity and I’m really gonna butcher it, but there’s an artistic aesthetic within all of us. There are mechanical skills you must practice to better express that artistic aesthetic. That’s the aspect where people can be TALENTED (a good singer, piano player, songwriter) and hard work is still required!

But not everyone’s aesthetic is unique, or marketable, or cool. Like these dudes that rap real good at open mics over boom bap beats.

Rap music is so accessible to make and has a low bar for required talent, that nowadays being aesthetically unique is what makes you successful. That comes from being an alien, going through some unique experiences, and just having an eye for what’s swag. How famous and rich you get off of it comes from the marketability. The most successful artists nowadays have this in common, they got an ear for what’s swag and they went through some CRAZY s*** (Youngboy, Thug, X, Kendrick, 69...)

Underground / SoundCloud artists usually are aliens in their own right but honestly you need that believable street edge (even if you’re lying) to really be the biggest rapper right now.

Whatever u learn n this life u already knew

Sure but people are born with stronger/weaker impulses to engage with the creative process.

creativity is learned yes

but that's not "creativity that's a natural based talent that plays into creativity

i bet you learned to draw.

"here put the colors on the paper"