"we" can change without undermining other causes

Lmfao what

I love that Dave gets everyone actually having real dialogue. Whether you agree or disagree you can’t argue that that’s not impressive in this day and age

I agree the point being the mic never stops for black on black violence in music , abuse of women in music or many topics . This isn’t what aboutism. It’s keep the same energy or people will question why the exception

Got people thinking a man who killed someone on camera and likely has off camera will do worse things than say some dumb information about sucking d*** out of insecurity

And the point will always be that the part of black culture that’s glorified to make people rich is the one that’s the most dangerous and harmful to itself. It’s black peoples harming black people.

The moment that culture transcends into impacting issues other people care about that exist independently from black culture is when someone is made out to be a pariah.

People know what their favorite drill/trap rappers think. They have no problem making them rich until they come out and express it.

The pick and choose treatment highlights the racism in this.

Young Thug has been transphobic and replaced Dababy at Lolla . Trans people are getting murdered at a rate much higher than gay people . HIV didn’t hear Dababy ignorance and say “ I’m going to kill some gays tonight “ . What we applaud is what we applaud. I wouldn’t be clapping in the audience at his dumb s*** but many artist and politicians think many ignorant things. We don’t have the ability to cancel them all

People will contextualize the institutional racism and messed up circumstances that lead rappers to grow up selling d**** and resorting to violence. They embrace that as the real life artistry of it all despite how tragic it is.

But mind you that you that same environment births homophobic/bigoted opinions in many POC communities

Yet on the latter the context doesn’t seem to matter in the current conversations people have

@ShintaroKago

who is making an exception?
I asked y'all to show me proof that a majority of people who don't care about black violence support lgbtq causes... y'all went mute

in my experience they're not the same people, actually quite the opposite (meaning they usually care about both issues)

it is whataboutism because the topic of discussion wasn't black violence, it was dababy's ignorant remarks on stage

black violence keeps getting adressed in music ( by artists considered "concious", and some mainstream media outlets during the blm protests for example)

I don't see what your point is tbh just say you're bothered by people adressing this issue and move on

Which is a key part of what his Jail verse was about . He didn’t grow up around many groups of people we did . Instead he has just been told things about them . Same reason many racist are formed . It’s not excusing them . When you only have what you see in art or social media you say dumb s*** like “ aids from sucking d*** in a parking lot “ then you double down cause your ass is embarrassed . But really hood niggas aren’t woke

I don’t go to Dababy for a dissertation on sexuality , gender politics and his opinions on the AIDs epidemic

We consume a lot of music that celebrates or encourages the killing of each other . that doesn’t stop the bag at all .

Dababy s*** was stupid and ignorant essentially s*** shaming of gay men or viewing men sucking d*** as weakness that leads to disease and death but is it a call to action ?

A man who often performs shirtless knows some of his male fans could be gay

I see this as there being the commercial identity of an artist (mass appeal) being juxtaposed against the true identity of the artist (music/expression of who he really is)

He’s exposed himself as not being favorable to the masses but for a core fan base things are unchanged even those who are against his opinions but accept him as a flawed human being/artist

we don't go to dababy for his opinion on aids but he chose to gave it anyways at his set at a music festival
that's his dumbass fault tbh

he's a grown man with kids so the doubling down cuz he's embarrased reads weird, stop infantilizing him, he could have humbled himself and looked for explanations/dialogue in private instead of doubling down and basking in the attention (until his pockets got affected)

people have moved on from this tho so should we

Well clearly Twitter still hates him but it becomes when has he served his punishment for saying something dumb ? When should he be able to perform again? Never ? His career should end because he said something incredibly dumb to hype up a crowd ?

These artist aren’t connected to the dark reality of the people under them

Dababy made a hate speech

This comes down to the kind of career he wants to have.

If he wants to remain who is personally he should just accept what the public thinks of him and have a career catered to a fan base that likes him.

Otherwise, it’s come out and show he willing to step back and examine what people found problematic about his comments.

He was a huge commercial commodity/public figure. He’s expected to make music and shut up.

Dave the GOAT

Seriously man is an idiot who thought he was something else other than a commodity for mass music consumption lol

He’s a product that needs to appeal to everyone and that’s the only expectations of the public

If he was an artist whose following was mostly made up of those who appreciate his projects at a deep level — the majority of them would willing to let him pass a flawed artist/human being. Mass public perceptions of him wouldn’t effect him because his fame/celebrity would be tied to his art and not a manufactured image of a superstar rapper pushed constantly by labels.

nobody called for action lmao
some people gave their opinions and some companies chose not to be associated with him anymore for pr reasons

y'all don't want to play this game fr cuz several black public figures and organisations have called for violence in music to stop but they were told to stfu by rappers plus the industry supported it ( by signing them , investing money in them etc)

if you're saying "dababy should have been cancelled a long time ago" you'd be consistent but that's not what y'all seemingly want

seems like y'all want other groups to accept the bs we accept and they're not going for it, idc to discuss their motives and blablabla, they have a right to stand up for themselves (if that's what really happened :for all we know roc nation could have pulled dababy's plug for bringing tory on stage but for pr reasons festivals went with the "he's homophobic" angle despite letting other problematic artists perform, also the lgbt only dragged dabay online , y'all act like they started petitons and protests lmao, it wasn't that srs , im sure most of em dgaf bout any of this s***, be mad at the festivals for choosing their pcokets over integrity then be mad at yourself for expecting that in the year 2021)

DaBaby lost. Chappelle washed

I don’t think “ cancellations “ and Twitter outrage is anyway consistent with reality enough to cancel all shows of any artist . Being a Lupe fan and watching people turn on him including black Twitter for calling Obama a terrorist even if informed and correct he lost sponsorships, fans and plenty of money for it . The point being you can say the truth or something ignorant if it doesn’t match the consensus you will lose money but actions and thoughts not spoken always exist we just don’t know them

true but that doesn't mean people are wrong for not being okay with the ignorant s*** he said

I understand them being upset but cancelling all shows or acting like demand to see an artist is at 0 after that . The point being if these festivals only had “ politically correct artist “ or artist who have never said anything ignorant then Tyler wouldn’t be performing at the same exact festival

If Dababy had said his ignorance in a song as Eminem has would that make it better or could just say “ it was a character and concept song “ ?