OPMar 9, 2021
EuroNymousthey should just get rid of electoral college
For sure, but that's a whole other issue (and one much more difficult to change since it would require altering the Constitution or getting the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact to pass which is also extremely unlikely).
Mar 9, 2021Young DThe fact that Dems have 50 senators right now shows how extremely popular they've been in the last few elections, since the Senate is not fairly balanced towards urban areas and vastly favors rural voters. If it was fairly balanced the Dems would have a much more massive advantage there right now.
The problem is that it is generally hard for the party in power to remain popular, so the Dems will likely grow unpopular as all incumbents do. And once that happens they will get blown out in the Senate yet again because of the imbalance towards rural voters. That needs to change.
Yo I just woke up so no long paragraph from me yet
But na bro having the senate split directly in half pretty much demonstrates that Democrat’s popularity have only ever so risen.
If they were more popular they would have more seats (as they have in the past)
- Mar 9, 2021Young D
I don't buy that (Dems not into passing progressive policies) entirely. I just think they're p****s that won't do it unless they feel like it won't hurt them politically or that they have a more guaranteed shot at it. If they have a stronger control of the Senate, it could give them motivation.
And as for the second line in your post, I hope you realize that it contradicts everything you've been saying lmao. Getting a new state with a progressive and nonwhite voting base ALLOWS you to get more progressive senators lol. And as for you saying "Run more Democrats in moderate states" you're just contradicting everything you've been saying about how the Democrats are not a solution...choose a side lol. But to answer that part, it's not like GOP senators have been running unopposed. It's just easier said than done when there is such tribalism in these deep red states at the moment.
I will certainly say that I am all for Dems running some true progressives instead of these corporate moderate hacks in the rural red states though, but it's still difficult when they have a "D" next to their name given the culture in those states. Much more of a sure thing to run them in a new state like DC or even PR.
No contradictions
You’re telling me you want more power in congress
You don’t have to add states to the union for this
Run moderate Democrats in Republican districts and challenge moderates with progressives in Democratic districts
No progressive could’ve won in Georgia, so we got 2 very kind centrists 😂
We jus gotta keep doing that
- Mar 9, 2021·2 replies
PR shouldn't be a state. Just grant it sovereignty. DC should never be a state. OP is such a hack
Mar 9, 2021·1 replySaint AquinasPR shouldn't be a state. Just grant it sovereignty. DC should never be a state. OP is such a hack
Why, and why?
Mar 9, 2021Young DI don't buy that (Dems not into passing progressive policies) entirely. I just think they're p****s that won't do it unless they feel like it won't hurt them politically or that they have a more guaranteed shot at it. If they have a stronger control of the Senate, it could give them motivation.
And as for the second line in your post, I hope you realize that it contradicts everything you've been saying lmao. Getting a new state with a progressive and nonwhite voting base ALLOWS you to get more progressive senators lol. And as for you saying "Run more Democrats in moderate states" you're just contradicting everything you've been saying about how the Democrats are not a solution...choose a side lol. But to answer that part, it's not like GOP senators have been running unopposed. It's just easier said than done when there is such tribalism in these deep red states at the moment.
I will certainly say that I am all for Dems running some true progressives instead of these corporate moderate hacks in the rural red states though, but it's still difficult when they have a "D" next to their name given the culture in those states. Much more of a sure thing to run them in a new state like DC or even PR.
I don't buy that (Dems not into passing progressive policies) entirely. I just think they're p****s that won't do it unless they feel like it won't hurt them politically or that they have a more guaranteed shot at it. If they have a stronger control of the Senate, it could give them motivation.
This paragraph is just extra words for the dems not wanting to pass the policies.
- Mar 9, 2021·edited·2 repliesSaint Aquinas
PR shouldn't be a state. Just grant it sovereignty. DC should never be a state. OP is such a hack
Edit: this post is wrong
- Mar 9, 2021·3 repliessarxoid
Why, and why?
We shouldnt even have territories. give them independent soverignty.
DC is a city. No valid justification for statehood. It's the capital of the country. Only reason people want it as a state is for politics. If it was right-leaning, the left would revolt at the thought. Then add the fact that it's just a city filled with lobbyists and corrupt figures. Would damage the nation long-term
- Mar 9, 2021·1 replyragedsycokiller· edited
Edit: this post is wrong
I just said grant it sovereignty. Do you know what that word means?
Mar 9, 2021Saint AquinasWe shouldnt even have territories. give them independent soverignty.
DC is a city. No valid justification for statehood. It's the capital of the country. Only reason people want it as a state is for politics. If it was right-leaning, the left would revolt at the thought. Then add the fact that it's just a city filled with lobbyists and corrupt figures. Would damage the nation long-term
WINTER 🌨️Mar 9, 2021ragedsycokiller· editedEdit: this post is wrong
They also don't pay any US tax so they getting it pretty good
- Mar 9, 2021·1 replySaint Aquinas
I just said grant it sovereignty. Do you know what that word means?
eh that makes sense too lol. But I've read they wanted to be a state beforehand
- Mar 9, 2021ragedsycokiller
eh that makes sense too lol. But I've read they wanted to be a state beforehand
well yeah, because nobody asked them if they wouldnt mind being an independent country
- Mar 9, 2021Saint Aquinas
We shouldnt even have territories. give them independent soverignty.
DC is a city. No valid justification for statehood. It's the capital of the country. Only reason people want it as a state is for politics. If it was right-leaning, the left would revolt at the thought. Then add the fact that it's just a city filled with lobbyists and corrupt figures. Would damage the nation long-term
PR would probably be a red state and there is still a ton of support for their statehood
Mar 13, 2021·1 reply
JT is Electricim not sure if the people of Hawaii want to be independent but if they do I fully support them
But not the people of PR voting for statehood?
- Mar 13, 2021·1 replyJT is Electric
im not sure if the people of Hawaii want to be independent but if they do I fully support them
most people in hawaii arnt even native lmao. yall say anything 😭😭
- Mar 13, 2021·1 replyCLB Fractions
most people in hawaii arnt even native lmao. yall say anything 😭😭
when did i call them native? tf.
- Mar 13, 2021Katsura
But not the people of PR voting for statehood?
I am not against it but they should be wary of it considering they wont get funded how they are supposed to and WILL still be neglected.
Statehood would provide them with a better standard of living than what it is currently. 
Mar 13, 2021PR wouldn’t be a red state....
- Mar 13, 2021·edited·1 reply
Also yall are fundamentally not understanding OPs argument.
The senate is literally built to be an undemocratic, minority rule-serving institution. There’s a lot of literature on this but basically with increased urbanization it’ll only get worse. Do you know that even tho repubs and dems have the same amount of senators, republicans represent over 40 MILLION LESS people
It’s impeding progress. Most Americans support center left economic policies just a fact. Im not just saying that cus it benefits my side in the regean era America was center right on economics, that was the majoritarian position. It isnt anymore and our politics should reflect that just like it did then and just like it did in the post fdr/lbj world where America was center left on economics
A healthy democracy can’t exist like this. Also no other major democracy has a bicameral legislative system with as much power as the US senate. It’s an anomaly that again was engineered to literally empower minority factions.
There are many proposed reforms. Personally I’m for dissolving the senate all together but that is unlikely to happen but the energy has been behind PR and DC statehood so Ig that’s why OP is bringing them up
There are also other interesting reforms. For instance dnt be suprised if in 20 years cali splits into two different, north cal and socal.
Bcus the current trajectory isnt sustainable
- Mar 13, 2021JT is Electric
when did i call them native? tf.
states cant leave the union
- Mar 13, 2021·edited·2 repliesMaartins
Also yall are fundamentally not understanding OPs argument.
The senate is literally built to be an undemocratic, minority rule-serving institution. There’s a lot of literature on this but basically with increased urbanization it’ll only get worse. Do you know that even tho repubs and dems have the same amount of senators, republicans represent over 40 MILLION LESS people
It’s impeding progress. Most Americans support center left economic policies just a fact. Im not just saying that cus it benefits my side in the regean era America was center right on economics, that was the majoritarian position. It isnt anymore and our politics should reflect that just like it did then and just like it did in the post fdr/lbj world where America was center left on economics
A healthy democracy can’t exist like this. Also no other major democracy has a bicameral legislative system with as much power as the US senate. It’s an anomaly that again was engineered to literally empower minority factions.
There are many proposed reforms. Personally I’m for dissolving the senate all together but that is unlikely to happen but the energy has been behind PR and DC statehood so Ig that’s why OP is bringing them up
There are also other interesting reforms. For instance dnt be suprised if in 20 years cali splits into two different, north cal and socal.
Bcus the current trajectory isnt sustainable
its meant to treat each state as equal 50 states 2 senators each.
thats not undemocratic
also most americans do not "support center left policies"
also if you were to fet rid of the senate you would need to change the way the whole country is ran.
Mar 13, 2021·1 replySaint AquinasWe shouldnt even have territories. give them independent soverignty.
DC is a city. No valid justification for statehood. It's the capital of the country. Only reason people want it as a state is for politics. If it was right-leaning, the left would revolt at the thought. Then add the fact that it's just a city filled with lobbyists and corrupt figures. Would damage the nation long-term
so the 700,000+ residents of DC don't deserve representation in congress? and lobbyists tend to be transplants who have no connection to the rest of the city.
the very simple solution would be to create a separate enclave where the federal government will continue to function and give the rest of the city statehood
- Mar 14, 2021·1 replyCLB Fractions
its meant to treat each state as equal 50 states 2 senators each.
thats not undemocratic
also most americans do not "support center left policies"
also if you were to fet rid of the senate you would need to change the way the whole country is ran.
Land isnt people
Land is land. Earth doesn’t deserve representation and definitely dsnt deserve to impede progress
You’re wrong on this argument man im sorry. Im in Canada now and a coequal bicameral legislature dsnt exist here, nonetheless one wing being based on something as ridiculous as land. It doesn’t exist in the uk, france, Germany, Australia, norway should i go on
The US is forward looking in some aspects but this american quirk is weird and bizarre and undemocratic. It’s not up for discussion, if u cant concede this point dnt bother replying bcus yr in fantasy land and claiming yk better than basically every working american social scientist
To your second point notice how i said ECONOMICALLY center left. You really need to learn how to read man
Also as I mentioned america being economically center left is actually the norm in modern us political history. Post fdr world up until the late 70s was like this. Nixon, the republican president, right before watergate happened was looking for a way to implement universal healthcare
Reagan was the anomaly who changed things and ill admit from the 80s thru clinton bush and obama economic issues were dominated by a conservative ideology but biden just passed a nearly 2 trillion stimulus, americans are receiving thousands of dollars in direct checks from the govt, biden passed a $3600/yr child tax payment, the social democratic/left wing of the democratic party is somewhat empowered again so clearly consensus has changed
- Mar 14, 2021·1 replyMaartins
Land isnt people
Land is land. Earth doesn’t deserve representation and definitely dsnt deserve to impede progress
You’re wrong on this argument man im sorry. Im in Canada now and a coequal bicameral legislature dsnt exist here, nonetheless one wing being based on something as ridiculous as land. It doesn’t exist in the uk, france, Germany, Australia, norway should i go on
The US is forward looking in some aspects but this american quirk is weird and bizarre and undemocratic. It’s not up for discussion, if u cant concede this point dnt bother replying bcus yr in fantasy land and claiming yk better than basically every working american social scientist
To your second point notice how i said ECONOMICALLY center left. You really need to learn how to read man
Also as I mentioned america being economically center left is actually the norm in modern us political history. Post fdr world up until the late 70s was like this. Nixon, the republican president, right before watergate happened was looking for a way to implement universal healthcare
Reagan was the anomaly who changed things and ill admit from the 80s thru clinton bush and obama economic issues were dominated by a conservative ideology but biden just passed a nearly 2 trillion stimulus, americans are receiving thousands of dollars in direct checks from the govt, biden passed a $3600/yr child tax payment, the social democratic/left wing of the democratic party is somewhat empowered again so clearly consensus has changed
look up how the usa was formed... the states came together etc its a unique history behind it.
If you were to abolish senate then you should abolish states as well.
I know you said economically center left and thats false... you need to learn to read