If you aren't aware of what demographic collapse is, it refers to a sharp decline in population, particularly working age population, within a country

It is typically associated with negative outcomes, economic and social instability

However, in the modern context, many of the world's largest and most powerful nations are facing extreme cases of demographic collapse. This includes Russia, China, many European nations and Japan.

My question for you all is what is your perspective on the consequences of demographic collapse on a global scale?

Ii think the general belief is this is bad for the global economy in the short term due to labor shortages. But I wonder if the decreased need for economic growth due to slower population growth will sort of counteract with the decreasing labor pool? I also wonder if technology and the increased efficiency of work makes the need for labor as important? I sort of see a perfect storm in a good way, where decreased economic output collides with decreased resource needs and we avoid the economic catastrophe that many predict. I also think the inevitable transfer of wealth from the baby boomer generation will allow for some economic and technological innovation that could lead to a sort of golden age

why do you think transferring wealth from one generation to the next will change anything

move to politics this topic upsets me

They love to pretend they can solve problems by simply tweaking the rules of the game. They'll never come to terms with the fact that they'll have to abandon every system they currently know.

Lets all stop showing up to work

Most of the wealth in the world is stored in illiquid assets. That's property, bank accounts, retirement portfolios, other forms of investment. Much of it is also invested in the market or government in various forms, which could also be considered illiquid assets

When these assets are cashed out or transferred to new generations, you will likely see a scenario where many people are going to spend that wealth, as the purpose of the wealth was for the younger generation to haven spending power and as a security blanket. Many people are trying to secure the wealth of their entire families not just their own security, and in america we actually have an economic infrastructure where one person can make enough money to secure their entire family. The wealth will go into new investments and asset acquisitions that will fuel the economy

Economics is all relative. America is insanely f***ing rich. If you are an American you shouldn't fear some economic cataclysm that will sink us because we literally control the global economy.

Bur anyways, the core of economic s is resources. In a world where resource requirements are declining, we are safeguarded from extreme economic instability. The combination of wealth transfer and resource surplus will hopefully allow us to survive any market correction or economic slowdowns

demographic collapse leads to racial resentment and a decline in a nation's identity. No nation can survive if the demographics rapidly change. If Argentina became predominantly ethnically Japanese, would Argentinians be mad? Of course.

Heard today that they estimate that in the countries in op they expect that by 2050 a quarter of the whole working population has to work in healthcare if they want to care for every one.

I feel like our generation will all be massively f***ed. After that it might get better but for this century hell no. The resource requirements aren’t going to go down in the foreseeable future.

this but it's the US and with the chronically fat population replacing the healthy

"nation's identity"

this too although there are some fine fat women so i can't complain

you're ok with whites replacing blacks in african nations and destroying their identity?

I'm not stupid, I know what game you're playing

Who do you think is causing this "great replacement" of Europeans with Middle Eastern migrants?

Surprised we had positive pop growth for this long tbh

This planet is cooked

also LMAO at trying to compare the phenomenon of colonialism to some Europeans b****ing about "multiculturalism" as being equivalent

Either you use the 'socially liberal' argument and say that the Muslims can't integrate into enlightened European society and must be deported or you create some "anti-woke" alliance with fundamentalist Christians and Muslims

Recently, the right-wing has shifted towards the latter, which I think is interesting

yep we're already seeing the signs

the borders are insecure and democrats are too afraid of being being labeled bigots or in bed with china to actually close it up

did someone say collapse

So is it ok if white people replace the demographics of african countries? Yes or no?

Bro said game then admitted it's bad

That's a non-sequitur attempting to legitimize your argument that "indigenous White Evropeans" must not be replaced by the bad Muslims and black people.

They are incomparable phenomena, not to mention 'the nation' is an artificial entity which subjugates certain ethnic groups under others. I do not believe in nationalism, I am a proud "rootless cosmopolitan".

The real question is if you believe in ethnostates, since multiculturalism is so full of problems. Everyone stays in their righteous place, the white man lays claim to Europe and North America, the non-whites stay where they are and immigration is ceased.

The main problem with this "great replacement" is that it posits that the superior White race is losing its "throne" so to speak, by the uncivilized stupid black/brown migrant, who is puppeteered by the cunning Jews

It's not a non-sequitur. You don't know what that means

You're obfuscating because you admit demographic change is bad but try to distinguish white nations from black nations as if it makes a difference

If you're not a nationalist and you are a proud rootless cosmopolitan, then you concede african nations don't have a right to maintain their heritage.

My country just revealed the latest census numbers and the population is way lower than everyone imagined. It was expected +210kk people but we are only ~203kk

People are getting older; many are not having children, especially the middle class

It's over

What "heritage"? The fact that no matter which nation, the proletariat is still exploited by their bourgeoise? What absolute nonsense that comes from the mouths of nationalists. The "unity" found in the nation is just a bourgeois coping mechanism for class struggle, and is generally the basis for fascism.

Even most "left-wing nationalists" tend to concede this point, and see national liberation as merely a transitional period towards further post-colonial class struggle.

I am not a liberal who subscribes to the petty-bourgeois dogma of inclusive "civic nationalism" as being a remedy for its problems, so you're s*** out of luck.