Huh. R Kelly smokes nearly every songwriter in RnB, I don’t even take what you said seriously after that. You said Brent Faiyaz has an angelic voice, double trippin
Aight court cases and bad reputaton aside (cause yeah r kelly wrote hits on hits on hits) but you telling me R Kelly is a better songwriter than Stevie then we have nothing more to talk about bro.
Innervisions alone is a master class in writing. Paul McCartney said Stevie made him wanna quit writing.
he cosigned a white girl that s*** on black women and i never f***ed with him since
#lecheminduroi
indeed
Your point about the comical lack of subtlety in post-Kelly r&b is on point, but Kelly is kind of an exception beyond that cause his melody game is so elite
Which brings this whole issue to another point: these r&b mfs just suck at melodies now tbh
Thank you for understanding what I’m saying. You’re right, he had/has melodies for days something that a lot of these singers today lack. @bloom I’m not saying he trash and never shoulda stepped foot to the mic.
But like is it THAT hot of a take to say some of Kelly’s lyrics were laughably bad?
You don’t need good content as an RnB artist. The genre’s bread and butter is music of love.
Stevie Wonder being one of the greatest writers of all time would disagree.
"That man made beautiful music about love"
....have you actually listened to that man's lyrics? He can get quite toxic at times. Now yes, he does make beautiful songs about love (him and HER really f***ed around and made probably the biggest R&B hit of last decade) but it's some "aint s*** nigga-ness" about a lot of his joints lol.
And Freudian is way better written wise than Case Study.
niggas gonna respect Stevie Wonder itt today
He's great but
Frank Ocean copium artist he was never meant to last
i don't think he was meant to lay through the industry which is always a good thing.
you gotta figure out the best way to Manuever through the music you create as an artist and let the industry and awards be damned.
everybody is not meant or does not want to compete with the acclaimed greats.
For a while i missed him cus I thought brent was trash for the longest but in the past year brents output has been good so the niche isn’t really lacking anymore
Say what you will about ktt & being out of touch with the music landscape but there isn’t a single deep cut ass pic of a white woman you’ll don’t have on deck at a seconds notice
in times of need brother
oh yeah. I thought you were referring to a record where he was the main artist
Freudian is a classic but I don’t think he’ll ever make anything remotely as good as that
He stopped himself, he was his own hurdle. Man begged for people to forget about him essentially
music never fell off. The last album he did was great. But he’s one of the few examples of cancel culture actually somewhat working bc no one checks for him anymore after the YesJulz s***, and I think had it not happened he probably would be the face of RnB rn. so in terms of his career, man never got to the heights he could’ve. But the music always been good.
That said, I still think he might have a comeback in him, just don’t know how
Still can not believe she was the hill he was willing to die on for and I don’t even think she really acknowledged him standing up for her
The one thing I hated about him getting canceled is he’s always been my perfect example of how all these loving “progressives” aren’t as loving as they pretend to be. So many chicks on Twitter started flaming him, his teeth, calling him ugly, and admiting they hoped he f***ed up so they could finally say something. This always stood out to me specifically because it really shows mfs will pretend to like you until you do some s*** that has everyone against you then their real opinions come out.