I’m not a doctor or an emergency room medical professional so idk
Although allowing someone to get stabbed because you don’t want to shoot the aggressor isn’t exactly something I agree with
why are the only options in your eyes
A. cop stands there and watches
or
B. cop shoots them in the heart
why are the only options in your eyes
A. cop stands there and watches
or
B. cop shoots them in the heart
Like I said, cops are incapable of making decisions in any hostile event
The 1st thing they think to do is shoot
That's what they trained to do
Which is why ALL cops are trash
We live in 2021 and they're really not brainstorming and testing/rolling out advanced new methods of restraining people? Like something more effective than a taser?
They're not because they just don't care if more people are executed or not
why are the only options in your eyes
A. cop stands there and watches
or
B. cop shoots them in the heart
What other options do you think should be on the table that have guaranteed success?
why are the only options in your eyes
A. cop stands there and watches
or
B. cop shoots them in the heart
I think they made the appropriate decision given the circumstances. Of course different scenarios may warrant the use of different tools but in this case I can’t see anything wrong with how it played out.
The woman was in full force with a blade with the Intent to kill, and just moments before that her dad was throwing some serious kicks into a girls head.
I suppose any loss of life is tragic tho
What other options do you think should be on the table that have guaranteed success?
No matter what I'll say I'll just hear "cop shouldn't risk his own life or wellbeing whatsoever over that" so whatever
And that's a problem.
I want cops to have guns.
I've never felt this way when i shoot at real targets.
Any mentally rational cop should have been capable of shooting a 15 year old girl once
1. There is a different level of stress and adrenaline when shooting in an active violent situation as opposed to shooting at targets while hunting or at a range.
One is being bombarded by someone with a weapon out of nowhere rushing to stab an individually directly infront of you.
Unexpected and requiring some immediate action on your half
The other is you going to the range or a hunting ground prepared to shoot an animal that you expect to see most likely with a rifle or a shotgun as opposed to a glock which I'm positive has a higher fire rate than a hunting rifle.
2. I have no idea why you are hung up on the fact that a Cop shot 4 times. The fact he shot 4 times is exactly why Cop's don't use tasers.
They shoot a myriad of times to make sure that they can effectively hit a target
A taser has at max two shots.
While excessive force is a thing, I don't think the fact he shot 3 extra times falls within that margin of force.
3. You think you want all Cops to have guns.
If you are impugning this guy for not shooting a living person once at a range in a high stress situation then you clearly do not want cops to have guns.
If a Cop takes out a gun they are shooting to kill
If a gun is taken out, you are escalating the situation to one where you think lethal force is justified. I don't know what your goal is with 4 shots being excessive. Guns are a force amplifier. If he accidentally did a head shot and only shot once. Would you say its excessive?
Exactly, we don't want every Cop to have a gun.
No matter what I'll say I'll just hear "cop shouldn't risk his own life or wellbeing whatsoever over that" so whatever
No, I really want to know. I already said the cop should go to prison. 4 bullets is a lot. I really wanna know since everyone keeps crying about cops being trained to shoot first, provide something with 100% guaranteed success. Not a possibility. A guarantee.
Cops should only be allowed one bullet a day
All cops needs to be reevaluated and retrained
Like it needs to be rebuild from the ground up
This s*** is happening EVERY WEEK
Y’all hate them but this is where I got the most facts from, 1:20 is the call
Naw these niggas some coons
No, I really want to know. I already said the cop should go to prison. 4 bullets is a lot. I really wanna know since everyone keeps crying about cops being trained to shoot first, provide something with 100% guaranteed success. Not a possibility. A guarantee.
You really think he should go to prison?
No, I really want to know. I already said the cop should go to prison. 4 bullets is a lot. I really wanna know since everyone keeps crying about cops being trained to shoot first, provide something with 100% guaranteed success. Not a possibility. A guarantee.
I hate people who argue like this. At least try to make it sound like you wanna have a conversation lol
You really think he should go to prison?
I don't think he should go to prison but he should be fired
I don't really blame him tbh, it's the system that taught him to shoot 1st
Being mad about the amount of bullets is silly, they're trained to shoot to kill. the issue is the decision making
I don't think he should go to prison but he should be fired
I don't really blame him tbh, it's the system that taught him to shoot 1st
He is not getting fired lol. You're wilding
Why fire someone who f***ed up because they trained him to do that?
I unno about all that therapist stuff ngl
But I don't think its worth it to have all American Cops carry a gun.
If you need to commit bodily harm, you're incentivized to use a gun rather than develop more creative ways to handle a situation that may result in the preservation of life.
Do I think this Cop f***ed up? Not really, he did what he could with what he had. However, say this Cop is forced into a situation where him and his fellow Cop have to actually use a taser or pepper spray. Like it's a domestic occurrence, lol.
The only reason this is a difficult thing is because America is so deep into these historical culture wars with a burgeoning gun wielding populace that makes it hard to actually do anything.
S*** is ass, a world where Police are incentivize to creatively combat situations or where research dollars are put into devising more effective less than lethal weapons is what we should be striving for.
Some girl running outside her home because she felt so threatened she felt the need to bolt out her house and stab someone and gets shot as a result is a societal failure.
i said therapists/social workers to mean that cops shouldn't just charge into every scenario guns blazing. they should take measured approaches to a situation, kinda like what ur saying. i dont see how sending in a cop with a gun makes any situation better. if its like an active shooter situation sure i guess but it should really be trained swat guys not uniformed cops doing that. if they dont even have the option to use a gun they'll be forced to attempt to deal with something in a calmer way.
i agree tho bro its a problem bottom to top with our society n there's no easy answer
All cops needs to be reevaluated and retrained
Like it needs to be rebuild from the ground up
This s*** is happening EVERY WEEK
Having said that if an aggressor comes at me with a knife imma empty a whole clip
says a nigga who prolly lives in the burbs and not in low income areas.
Yeah bro let all the criminals have all the guns lol that's a good idea, like niggas gone call swat everytime someone is carrying an illgal gun. Like criminals with guns won't take advantage of that fact. How about people raise their f***ing kids so they don't try stabbing their roommate over f***ing making their bed. Maybe the adults in the situation should've stepped up. You niggas want police to be your superheros and oppressors it sounds like, goddamn.
all facts
Having said that if an aggressor comes at me with a knife imma empty a whole clip
If you can't handle 1 dude with a knife then you shouldn't be a cop imo
All cops needs to be reevaluated and retrained
Like it needs to be rebuild from the ground up
This s*** is happening EVERY WEEK
they pulled somethin like this in Camden NJ. fired all of their cops and made em re-apply to their jobs. had to do psychological testing and all that s***. also de-unionized the force. they had excessive force complaints reduced massively because of it. still had a ton of issues tho like most of the cops who got rehired were white. but its a step in the right direction
prefacing this by saying I don't know much about the case
if she was attempting to stab (aka cause lethal physical harm to someone else) another person, not in self defense, how can you say that the cop acted incorrectly?
I'm open to hearing what you guys have to say but this seems like an extremely justifiable reason. In my opinion, once you cross the line into lethal harm against another individual, in that moment, you have forfeited your right to live (unless you are acting in self defense)
they pulled somethin like this in Camden NJ. fired all of their cops and made em re-apply to their jobs. had to do psychological testing and all that s***. also de-unionized the force. they had excessive force complaints reduced massively because of it. still had a ton of issues tho like most of the cops who got rehired were white. but its a step in the right direction
The very last resort should be to use your gun
Like it really shouldn't even be on your mind unless somebody else has a gun