Did MJ write his most notable hits? Elvis? Ella Fitzgerald? Jackie Wilson? most RnB Legends didn’t write their hits. Aretha? Luther?

Do we give What’s Goin On credit to Al Cleveland the writer or the vocal performer Marvin Gaye?

So what all that supremely taxing mental labor is still out the way

thats the point here

Still a great feat but u gotta be able to keep it a buck brother

Try it again in English bubba

maaan shut your shuck n jiving head ass up

Nigga this is just an expression of her work ethic.. a normal appreciation thread nothing more nothing less. Threads have been created for far less

i said its commendable regardless

She still not writing s*** though, its a valid criticism when compared to the best of the best..

Its a difference, you might be too close to see it but theres a difference between riding solo, having a friend help you, Michael having Quincy Jones, Biggie having Diddy and a label forcing you to work with talented people or your one album getting worked on by over 40 people, that my guy is an orchestra.

Streets need that Bey album

You getting tight cause you can’t construct basic sentences? The fact that you edited your post and literally ‘tried again’ proves that you recognize the s*** you said didn’t make sense.

I didnt edit s*** dawg u might be hallucinating 😂

Imagine waking up on some satin sheets in a penthouse at 4 in the afternoon and saying all this.

This site is stricter on singers writing their own songs than rappers

Ion get why ppl try and slander Beyonce with this critique. I ain’t even a big Beyonce fan, but it’s pretty well documented she’s heavily involved in the song writing/creation process. Many writers have said when they work with Beyonce, they don’t just write the song and give it to her to sing, like a Rihanna. She’ll sit down with them and change things here and there

Love it, otherwise just call it a playlist. Better yet, name it an experience

"this is just a cool collection of music i wanted to put out for the streets, for my real fans"

“This is for the day ones”

MJ aside.. no one compares

You still didn’t address the fact that in pop music especially black RnB artists the label have always provided songwriters, engineers and producers ..it’s the reason why Aretha, Luther, Patti, Whitney, Ella Fitzgerald MOST RnB artists.. Celine Dion, Anita Baker I could go on and on. how convient that you ignore all the other names I mentioned and explicitly used MJ to validate your dumb point.

The world doesn’t care that Al Cleveland wrote and composed what’s going on because Marvin Gaye is the vocal performer.. The GP doesn’t care to kno who wrote Lady Marmalade because Patti sung it. When you think of “I will always love you” does Dolly Parton pop into your mind or Whitney? You think my dad gives a f*** that his fave, Jackie Wilson, didn’t write ‘Lonely Teardrops’ ?? Does Frank Ocean’s self-control hit any less because it took 3-4 ppl to write/compose it? Usher and the entirety of Confessions?

I'd put Jimi Hendrix, Bob Marley, Prince and Jon Bon Jovi above all those.

i wonder if she used the bathroom during that time hehe

I appreciate the anecdotal sentiments but as far as pop culture and public sentiments are concerned most of our musical heros that we give the most esteem to weren’t writing their hits .. Respect by Aretha is an American STANDARD that was written by Otis Redding.. Is Otis the Legend that Aretha is? Elvis, our blackface US hero?? Ella Fitzgerald and Sarah Vaughan are etched in the parchments of history.. find me their songwriting credits...

Imagine someone hearing Ree’s classic and going ‘Otis Redding wrote df outta this”

I don’t know who needs to hear this, but songwriting doesn’t stop and end at ‘lyrics’ !

Composition (arranging placement), creating bridges, harmonic structure, melody etc

nobody is woman hating lmao we literally have heard stories of countless artists (thug, wayne, future) making way more than 6 songs in 40 hrs PLUS using more dangerous things than redbull to keep them up

it could've been any artist named in this story and they would've got clowned.. just so happened to be Beyonce

stop letting feminists poison your brain

“its a valid criticism when compared to the best of the best” - We not comparing her to anyone. Did you listen to the clips.. it’s just a look inside behind her creation process. That’s literally it. There’s nothing to critique

A lot of good songwriters are really talented vocalists, too. They just don't have the "look" or the brand behind them. Not really the point of this story tho lol.

Beyonce's still dope af and this is a big feat when you consider how much technicality and layering she puts into her tracks.