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  • Dec 6, 2024
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    TheFader

    Vultures was the 3rd or 4th. Is Kanye not a legacy act?

    When did Kanye debut and when did Drake debut and when were their cultural/commerical peaks?

    Quickly

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    TheyLikePablo

    No please

    find where I said that

    Someone said that sales = music is good.

    To which I said, that’s not true, the average listener enjoys average music all the time that tips the charts.

    And then you said, stfu, implying that you disagree with that premise.

    Which means, you believe sales are a determinant of quality, and music is actually objective because it can be judged by numbers

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    Unforgivable

    Thank Me Later 8.4 (BNM)
    Take 8.6 (BNM)
    NWTS 8.6 (BNM)
    IYRTITL 8.3 (BNM)
    More Life 7.8

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    TheFader

    Someone said that sales = music is good.

    To which I said, that’s not true, the average listener enjoys average music all the time that tips the charts.

    And then you said, stfu, implying that you disagree with that premise.

    Which means, you believe sales are a determinant of quality, and music is actually objective because it can be judged by numbers

    "The average listener listens to average music"

    B**** are you not the average listener lmao

  • Dec 6, 2024
    deleteduser579

    Now they moving the goalpost after I made them look like fools

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    TheyLikePablo

    "The average listener listens to average music"

    B**** are you not the average listener lmao

    Average is a mindset

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    TheFader

    Someone said that sales = music is good.

    To which I said, that’s not true, the average listener enjoys average music all the time that tips the charts.

    And then you said, stfu, implying that you disagree with that premise.

    Which means, you believe sales are a determinant of quality, and music is actually objective because it can be judged by numbers

    This level of delusion in the latter part of your post too

    Again, you're on a rap forum pretending you have elite music taste loooool

    F*** outta here

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    quadra

    When did Kanye debut and when did Drake debut and when were their cultural/commerical peaks?

    Quickly

    Kanye debuted 5 years before Drake, and he had numerous commercial peaks, his most recent being 8 years ago.

    Drake’s commercial peak was 6 years ago.

    Why can’t Drake be a legacy act?

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Average is a mindset

    @Unforgivable knows that all too well

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    TheyLikePablo

    This level of delusion in the latter part of your post too

    Again, you're on a rap forum pretending you have elite music taste loooool

    F*** outta here

    Nowhere did I say I have elite music taste, I just said that sales don’t equal quality

    My favorite artist is The Weeknd for f***’s sake

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    TheFader

    Kanye debuted 5 years before Drake, and he had numerous commercial peaks, his most recent being 8 years ago.

    Drake’s commercial peak was 6 years ago.

    Why can’t Drake be a legacy act?

    Wasnt Donda a peak compared to Ye etc?

  • Oh they squabbling itt

  • Dec 6, 2024
    TheyLikePablo

    Wasnt Donda a peak compared to Ye etc?

    It can be argued that. But Quadra won’t admit that, so I conceded 2016 which we can all agree was another commercial peak for Ye

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    TheyLikePablo

    "most average listeners enjoy music that isnt great"

    the ego is mad lmao stfu man.

    Some b**** ass god complex

    You're on a kanye forum talking to people about music, you aint Beethoven

    No he’s right tbh, you don’t have to look at it through the lens of “elitism”.

    you should look at chart topping music as music that is the most accessible to the average listener, with a slight positive correlation with said music being “good”.

    Doesn’t necessarily mean that the music that tops the charts is the best of the best, that’s not really true all the time, it’s just very accessible, very easy to get into.

    It’s why Call of duty might be the best selling video game, but it’s not necessarily the best video game in terms of quality.

    It’s why the highest grossing film of the year in cinemas won’t necessarily be the greatest film that year.

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    TheFader

    Nowhere did I say I have elite music taste, I just said that sales don’t equal quality

    My favorite artist is The Weeknd for f***’s sake

    Then what is your point you goof

    You cant friendly fire and think you made a good point

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    YA ICEMAN ACE

    @Unforgivable knows that all too well

    • Gambino & Drake stan saying this

    Like @edumist said pick a struggle b****

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    TheyLikePablo

    Then what is your point you goof

    You cant friendly fire and think you made a good point

    My point is that sales don’t equate to quality, do you agree with that yes or no

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    This thread still going strong 3 days later? Yeah Aubrey is cooked

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    TheFader

    My point is that sales don’t equate to quality, do you agree with that yes or no

    Bro

    Who am I dictate quality lol?

    There are songs that chart all the time that I hate, there are songs that chart that I love

    Music is subjective

    Hope this helps

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    GodzillaMinusOne

    This thread still going strong 3 days later? Yeah Aubrey is cooked

    Drake keeping KTT alive one thread at a time

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    TheyLikePablo

    Bro

    Who am I dictate quality lol?

    There are songs that chart all the time that I hate, there are songs that chart that I love

    Music is subjective

    Hope this helps

    So you agree that sales don’t equal quality

  • Dec 6, 2024

    How is he agreeing with me and not realizing it

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    No he’s right tbh, you don’t have to look at it through the lens of “elitism”.

    you should look at chart topping music as music that is the most accessible to the average listener, with a slight positive correlation with said music being “good”.

    Doesn’t necessarily mean that the music that tops the charts is the best of the best, that’s not really true all the time, it’s just very accessible, very easy to get into.

    It’s why Call of duty might be the best selling video game, but it’s not necessarily the best video game in terms of quality.

    It’s why the highest grossing film of the year in cinemas won’t necessarily be the greatest film that year.

    But by literal definition art is subjective so...

    COD might be someones GOTY
    Highest grossing film might be someone's FOTY

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    TheFader

    So you agree that sales don’t equal quality

    Ig you dont understand what subjective means

  • Dec 6, 2024
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    The reason that sales don’t equal quality is BECAUSE music is subjective

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