oh, i only came in halfway through the convo, i thought it was about if drake was influential at all, which he obviously was
nah no one can disagree with that
just like will be as impactful in the future? no i dont believe so
Idk cuz usually when I hear people refer to the “Toronto sound” they’re referring to that underwater R&B s*** that Drake and Weeknd and them came up doing that you hear in artists like Tory and Bryson Tiller
This that Toronto sound

@midzy
Nah nah nah, not this time nigga you following through
Did that nigga get himself clapped over that s***???
I’m f***ing crying
I love you too brudda
But I kinda agree in that WLR not only influenced sounds but aesthetics
When people refer to the opium aesthetic they’re not just talking the rage beats but the niggas dressing all black and mad belts and zippers like they’re in a Final Fantasy game
That’s a fact Carti honed in on a whole new like ethos for his/opiums sound in 2020
Which is funny bc Uzi was on that wave in like 2017, at least fashion wise
The Toronto sound is just niggas saying "6 6 6 6!
"
the toronto sound:

This that Toronto sound
!https://youtu.be/1DaJT7Sk6g8?si=oPvETOmDTWG7D4JzBro is it bad that I knew exactly who the artist was gonna be when you sent me this
All you need on your pizza is fresh basil and some cheese
5 years ago I woulda scoffed at this so hard, but nah quality crust, sauce and cheese and spices is pretty much what makes it
not saying Drake was solely responsible for it, but there was 100% a period of like roughly the mid-2010s when every rapper was trying to also be a singer and also the whole like "toronto sound" was becoming a material sub-category of rap. It may not be as pronounced now as the opium stuff but Drake has definitely had some influence one way or another on hip hop/pop crossover
Drake was definitely influential on the rap&b crossover scene that gave rise to artists like Tiller, Summer Walker, and Kehlani etc. but strictly rap and hip-hop? No, he was never that influential or someone that people looked to model like that. That's a conversation that we're gonna have to have one day
He was never as influential or impactful on rap as a genre in the vein of a Keef, Thug, Carti, or even a 50 Cent lmao, he doesn't embody an ethos for rap musically that people seek to emulate
That’s a fact Carti honed in on a whole new like ethos for his/opiums sound in 2020
Which is funny bc Uzi was on that wave in like 2017, at least fashion wise
Yeah nah there’s a convo that can be had there. uzi did it when everybody wasn’t ready for it, when he was on that niggas was still rockin Supreme and Vlone
Sometimes timing really is everything
Yep. There was nothing quite like it at the time. What made it even crazier to me was the fact that he was gonna have Post Malone, Pharrell, Drake, Travis etc features and then scrapped all of that
good honestly
carti’s real asset is he can carry without an abundance of features
im personally hoping for none on i am music
Drake was definitely influential on the rap&b crossover scene that gave rise to artists like Tiller, Summer Walker, and Kehlani etc. but strictly rap and hip-hop? No, he was never that influential or someone that people looked to model like that. That's a conversation that we're gonna have to have one day
He was never as influential or impactful on rap as a genre in the vein of a Keef, Thug, Carti, or even a 50 Cent lmao, he doesn't embody an ethos for rap musically that people seek to emulate
Yeah fair enough, I would agree Drake's influence is more on crossover acts and on the pop side of the industry. I misunderstood what the argument was
good honestly
carti’s real asset is he can carry without an abundance of features
im personally hoping for none on i am music
Only feature I want is YB but I know it probably won’t live up to the hype
Yeah fair enough, I would agree Drake's influence is more on crossover acts and on the pop side of the industry. I misunderstood what the argument was
you're good
All you need on your pizza is fresh basil and some cheese
we can’t all live in the pizza belt sir
Me: young adults and younger audiences in general are listening to artist closer to them in age, it’s common sense and I hear the songs played outside
Your remedial ass for some reason: So you’re hanging around minors??
Do people think that niggas in high school are listening to 38 year old Drake everyday?
I'll never understand why folks say ignorant s*** like this...
Drake was definitely influential on the rap&b crossover scene that gave rise to artists like Tiller, Summer Walker, and Kehlani etc. but strictly rap and hip-hop? No, he was never that influential or someone that people looked to model like that. That's a conversation that we're gonna have to have one day
He was never as influential or impactful on rap as a genre in the vein of a Keef, Thug, Carti, or even a 50 Cent lmao, he doesn't embody an ethos for rap musically that people seek to emulate
That’s a convo that we can’t have on here cuz it’s gonna get ugly fast but yea even at his peaks commercially you could argue that there were other rap acts that were getting their style emulated more
Yep. There was nothing quite like it at the time. What made it even crazier to me was the fact that he was gonna have Post Malone, Pharrell, Drake, Travis etc features and then scrapped all of that
i don't know if it was an actively strategized decision but doing so is probably the single best decision carti has ever made in his entire career