i f***ing hate most internet reddit speech warriors but i do support free speech even for being a f***ing idiot. humans are irrational no matter what and i do not believe the alternative of trying to socially engineer information regardless of its truth or reliability will have a great outcome. in fact i believe unified social media platforms like twitter are inherently a problem because they passively socially engineer outcomes and ideas through trends, algorithms, and other such things.
however i will say that free speech != forced association. if you think someone is a f***ing idiot, then i fully support your own choice to tell them to f*** off. my issue comes with monolithic corporations who hold pseudo-governmental positions where speech is no longer simply platform participation but full-on political gesturing, especially because corporations do not hold any of these ideas to heart and do so at their own will because of a number of factors including; corruption, PR, investor relations, opportunism.
the free speech debate would be a non-issue if the internet was not consolidated into monolithic entities' control. free speech is often less about "speech" and more about "speech" as a platform for PR & Monetization; this is, of course, not wanting to be banned by a payment processor, or not wanting to be banned by a monetization algorithm. So while I don't think you should be forced to give service to someone esp. if their speech says one thing or another, it is a different issue when what we are talking about should be classified as a utility to begin with - i.e. if someone says something stupid, they can't just have their utilities (electricity, phone) revoked. but they can have their ability to bank and make money (payment processing because of visa/mastercard being monopolies) revoked. in a modern age, banking and credit cards are legitimately utilities, and are not just random corporations. If Twitter or FB wants to ban people, that's one thing, but often this trickles down to collusion of all platforms to collectively kick someone off the internet which is a far bigger issue

The education system needs to revamped. We wouldn’t have as many people following these stupid ass theories.
Don’t restrict free speech but keep social media fact checked

China>>>

Yes and no

I feel like everyone has the right to speak without being censored

But at the same time words can be dangerous and lead to disgusting crimes, especially when used by the loudest and most ignorant of our society

So I think it's a bit more complicated than saying "I'm for it" or "I'm against it"

Sticks and stones will break my bones but your words will never hurt me.

very straightforward

it's using "science" to justify racism, i.e. white people are genetically superior to other races

Yes

No

but like many I hate free speech warriors, they think its ok to say the things they say when its not

Obviously smooth brained mfs think like that

Yes

Yes but imo the true double edge sword is that in America we have free speech but today so many people words mean nothing. We have trolls, a bunch of virtue signaling, half assed “journalists”, etc. that’ll say some pretty heavy s*** with little to no actions behind it from either side. There’s countries where people speak out against their government and get locked up or beat which is f***ed up but you know they meant it and they’re someone to stand with and when your words and the actions to follows them can equal life or death those words will hit for a lot more people.

I support free speech though for sure but “with great power comes great responsibility” and all that bullshit.

the legal sense is the whole point lol

getting banned from youtube/twitter doesn't have anything to do with free speech

yep

This. Say what you want but also be ready to face up the consequences when it calls for it.

Yeah OP is talking about effective speech

I would say the most important point is that the concept of freedom of speech / freedom of expression should only ever be seen in its proper context - when enforced or restricted by a government.

People getting kicked off social media sites is not really a question of free speech (unless a government has forced it to happen).

The kinds of people who get kicked off these things invoke the concept of free speech specifically to muddy the waters and make it seem like there’s a liberal conspiracy against them or whatever

No , in all honesty not everybody needs a platform to speak

you still spoke freely even if you get folded right after

exactly

Yes

But being banned from YouTube has nothing to do with free speech

Yes I believe in free speach as well as the consequence of free speech.

Yes, because the opposite is speech controlled by the government. Banning and arresting neo-Nazis and other racist agitators sounds great, until you realize that same power can be used against you when the pendulum inevitably swings the other way.

i dont think yall get that this is not that deep

u should 100% support free speech no debate

but if someone says some f*** s***, there should be consequences