obviously they're not the same thing
but leaks aren't from Drake, it's music he obviously doesn't want you listening to yet, mostly because it's unfinished or he deemed it not good enough. So I really don't understand how anyone can listen to leaks whilst saying they support the artistry/authenticty of Drake. Not to mention Drake/artists get nothing from leaks, people who listen to leaks are basically stealing from the artist
You just answered the question in the first line. All the songs on Care Package were released by Drake unofficially between 2010-2016. They didn't become official releases till 2019 when Care Package dropped on DSPs. War, Chicago Freestyle/When to Say When/Desires were also unofficially released by Drake before they all got added to DLDT and released officially. By definition, because Drake was signed to a record deal and still dropped those songs without the consent of the record label, they're leaks. Just leaked by himself. Not to mention the several songs that Drake/his team have played on their radio show knowing people could rip those songs live or rip them whenever they uploaded the episodes on SoundCloud.
Yes, fans buying Drake leaks are bad but it's not nearly as bad as someone faking Drake's likeness and identity for clout and monetary gain. If you can't see the difference between those two things, I don't know what to say to you.
@mangotflu so based on your philosophy, if a movie studio got nameless actors who had the body types of the most famous actors alive and superimposed the faces of those famous actors on the nameless actors and mimicked their voices and had them make movies, you'd think that was cool so long as the deepfake and the AI mimic was good enough, right? That's essentially what you're saying here.
The fact that y'all don't see the dark, evil potential of this s*** and how f***ed up it could make the world and some of you think it shouldn't even be regulated by the law because the record labels are like big, bad wolves who wanna stifle creativity, makes you all look very stupid.
Do you know how messed up this could be? Add this AI s*** to deepfakes and how platforms like Twitter have gone out of their way to make it hard to tell who is real from who is fake and VERY soon, no one will know what's real in the world but yes, ''AI Drake songs, yay! Make more! Make more!" Such idiots.
The fact that y'all don't see the dark, evil potential of this s*** and how f***ed up it could make the world and some of you think it shouldn't even be regulated by the law because the record labels are like big, bad wolves who wanna stifle creativity, makes you all look very stupid.
Do you know how messed up this could be? Add this AI s*** to deepfakes and how platforms like Twitter have gone out of their way to make it hard to tell who is real from who is fake and VERY soon, no one will know what's real in the world but yes, ''AI Drake songs, yay! Make more! Make more!" Such idiots.
AI should not be injected into art imo (music, movie, tv etc) it should stick to doing mechanical and a***ytical things/chores that improve human lives
but how do you stop it? if the code is out there someone will always make artist replicated ai songs. you can make it illegal but then it will become like pirating (you can't find full movies/tv show eps on youtube but you can on torrents)
one thing could be record labels owning the likeness of their artists. but then you will have a hard time believing whether a song is ai or not (not now maybe but when ai gets better). drake voice will literally become a "hitmaker" at that point
and labels that own beatles, 2pac, amy winehouse, michael jackson etc might put out new ai generated music with the consent of their families
truth is this s*** is black mirror aka the dark side of technology. there are positives to it but as usual the negative aspects of technology are more damaging for society and humans in general compared to the good things (ie smartphones)
AI should not be injected into art imo (music, movie, tv etc) it should stick to doing mechanical and a***ytical things/chores that improve human lives
but how do you stop it? if the code is out there someone will always make artist replicated ai songs. you can make it illegal but then it will become like pirating (you can't find full movies/tv show eps on youtube but you can on torrents)
one thing could be record labels owning the likeness of their artists. but then you will have a hard time believing whether a song is ai or not (not now maybe but when ai gets better). drake voice will literally become a "hitmaker" at that point
and labels that own beatles, 2pac, amy winehouse, michael jackson etc might put out new ai generated music with the consent of their families
truth is this s*** is black mirror aka the dark side of technology. there are positives to it but as usual the negative aspects of technology are more damaging for society and humans in general compared to the good things (ie smartphones)
Rap fans don't know the disservice they're doing to the genre by being the ones who are embracing this s*** the most. Fans of other genres aren't doing that nearly as much. This Rolling Stone article on the situation is pretty good.
The fact that y'all don't see the dark, evil potential of this s*** and how f***ed up it could make the world and some of you think it shouldn't even be regulated by the law because the record labels are like big, bad wolves who wanna stifle creativity, makes you all look very stupid.
Do you know how messed up this could be? Add this AI s*** to deepfakes and how platforms like Twitter have gone out of their way to make it hard to tell who is real from who is fake and VERY soon, no one will know what's real in the world but yes, ''AI Drake songs, yay! Make more! Make more!" Such idiots.
lmaaaaaooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
You just answered the question in the first line. All the songs on Care Package were released by Drake unofficially between 2010-2016. They didn't become official releases till 2019 when Care Package dropped on DSPs. War, Chicago Freestyle/When to Say When/Desires were also unofficially released by Drake before they all got added to DLDT and released officially. By definition, because Drake was signed to a record deal and still dropped those songs without the consent of the record label, they're leaks. Just leaked by himself. Not to mention the several songs that Drake/his team have played on their radio show knowing people could rip those songs live or rip them whenever they uploaded the episodes on SoundCloud.
Yes, fans buying Drake leaks are bad but it's not nearly as bad as someone faking Drake's likeness and identity for clout and monetary gain. If you can't see the difference between those two things, I don't know what to say to you.
Yea I'm definitely not talking about those ones, I think it's actually stupid how fans call songs leaks when they're premiered by Drake/OVO officially on their radio shows. anything played by the artist isn't a leak
I'm more talking about all the countless leaks we had around 2019-2020, songs that Drake definitely didnt want out yet almost everyone on here was going wild for. No one cared about the artistry or authenticty, they were just absolutely fiending to hear new Drake. All these arguments went out the window
obviously these AI tracks are a lot worse tho
@mangotflu so based on your philosophy, if a movie studio got nameless actors who had the body types of the most famous actors alive and superimposed the faces of those famous actors on the nameless actors and mimicked their voices and had them make movies, you'd think that was cool so long as the deepfake and the AI mimic was good enough, right? That's essentially what you're saying here.
I think that'd be a lot harder to get away with because people generally get a lot more attached to tv/movie actors than they do musicians
Movies like Star Wars have actually already been doing something similar with using CGI to "recreate" famous past dead actors. In a few of the cases the actor/actress never consented, but their estate gave approval because obviously it makes them $$. Basically the same as if X's mom tomorrow was like "Yeah we're gonna use AI to make a brand new X album".
No one really cared about Star Wars doing that, maybe cause the actor's dead. But that's personally a super weird line to draw
Nobody looking for anything.
You can’t say you don’t care about the source and treat the music like a product while also saying you care about the artistry.
It’s literally contradicting yourself. Either you do or you don’t lol
I care about the artistry
But sometime I just want something that sounds good
It’s like food.
Yes I like a well prepared meal and care about the ingredients. But sometimes I just want something that tastes good.
Same with music. Me wanting a quick song doesn’t take away my appreciation of the art.
Every time I hear a song I’m not saying to myself, “Man, I really appreciate the artistry behind this. ” Sometimes I’m like, “Shit slaps
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And please, yes we love Drake, but let’s not act like he always makes life altering music that makes us dig deep and decipher the meaning behind the lyrics. Yes he’s capable of making GREAT songs, but we’re not gonna act like the AI is THAT far off lol
people saying now drake knows what a drake drop feels like as a fan (heart on my sleeve)
I saw that comment lol
That's a lie and you know that. And that's what is unfortunate. Y'all acting like this is a high-level Drake song. Everything off DLDT/CLB/HN/Her Loss WASHES this. The beat is wack and the delivery/lyrics are even wacker.
That's how I know y'all just wanna do the most and s*** on Drake.
“ That's how I know y'all just wanna do the most and s*** on Drake.”
you questioning my standom? i'm top 5
Same
Drake’s in my top 5 all time lol
that's a part of it yeah sure but being very anti-ai i simply can't deny this one just a banger
like if drake dropped this it would go #1 and have greater success than any of his singles post lncl
This would not go anywhere near #1, you are all dense as f***
That's a lie and you know that. And that's what is unfortunate. Y'all acting like this is a high-level Drake song. Everything off DLDT/CLB/HN/Her Loss WASHES this. The beat is wack and the delivery/lyrics are even wacker.
That's how I know y'all just wanna do the most and s*** on Drake.
I’ve seen people talking about “yeah drake is on autopilot this will be good to push him to make better music” like they can’t be serious right
This would not go anywhere near #1, you are all dense as f***
These are the same people who think every single Drake leak has #1 potential
I’ve seen people talking about “yeah drake is on autopilot this will be good to push him to make better music” like they can’t be serious right
They're all ungrateful twats.
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Drake has EASILY been a top 3 mainstream rap artist over the last 14 years and these clowns here are talking about him ''mailing it in'' but in the same breath, think that wack-ass AI songs that play on the most reductive side of Drake's artistry is great. They don't even see how stupid they come off when they praise these silly AI songs.
These are the same people who think every single Drake leak has #1 potential
Like I’m Supposed To had potential
Same
Drake’s in my top 5 all time lol
F*** outta here in no way would you be defending this unethical ass AI s*** if you were 🤣🤦🏾♂️ thefat that most of yal are saying this AI s*** is better than recent real drake is blasphemy on a whole nother level s*** is spooky honestly
This would not go anywhere near #1, you are all dense as f***
They capping man if Drake dropped these AI songs literally everyone would say it's MID or same ol drake I cant believe these mfas man lmao
F*** outta here in no way would you be defending this unethical ass AI s*** if you were 🤣🤦🏾♂️ thefat that most of yal are saying this AI s*** is better than recent real drake is blasphemy on a whole nother level s*** is spooky honestly
When did I ever say that it was better?
My stance has always been that as long as it sounds good, I’ll rock with it - Hate Conflict, Winters Cold, Talk To Me Nice, etc.
Lol at you trying to judge another person’s level of fandom
None of these AI niggas could make a Lemon pepper Freestyle Or Middle of the Ocean this like caricature drake