Dec 5, 2022Drake better
Dec 5, 2022
ryuHI send the label bills, bills, bills like the other two women standing next to B, that s*** was just—
Independent women is lovin' the new appearance
Matter of time before I go net a B (net a b as in bag a Beyoncé, net a B as in become a billionaire) like a Paris/apiarist (a bee keeper)Like, "Honey, you gotta know that I never wore Mike Amiris or never hopped in a Urus"
I got my head in the clouds, I’m seriousssss (In other words he not whipping the cars Niggas who just got money drive because he too busy flying on his air Drake private jet so he really got his head in the clouds like the ntws cover, also the pj is covered in clouds, also cirrus is a type of cloud)
That ONE scheme (and trust there are many more that are just as fire in that verse) is harder than anything Hov spit on Marcy me
Y’all niggas just sheep man
“Society says Jay-Z is a lyrical 90s goat and Drake is a Jewish Canadian with a ghost writer so it can’t be true 🤓 “
Jesus
- Dec 5, 2022
BlueChew SeanDisagree about it being better than Marcy Me and everything else on 4:44 (you said Drake snapped harder on those two songs than Jay has since the Black album) but I'll give you credit because there's some s*** here I didn't catch
And err, f*** no. You're wrong in your edit. Don't assume s*** about me. I'm not even a Hov fan like that
Haha I don’t take s*** personally or mean no personal disrespect on here man it was really more social commentary than a direct jab at you
- Dec 5, 2022
BRAVEIt would be fun to break down how they both use flow, rhyme and figurative language to convey certain topics side by side tho. They’re incredibly elite at this
Rap needs this in general
- Dec 5, 2022·1 reply
Side note: Churchill Downs is such a special moment in the Drake canon because it’s the antithesis of his usual rhyme scheme style. Throughout his verse, he’s playing with syllable count line by line to make the end rhymes fall around unexpected beats in the bars - while retaining a tight and uniform structure. It’s very Biggie-esque in its ethos
Pretty cool stuff 😎 🦉
Dec 5, 2022Drake been using the same “bars” flow since diplomatic immunity s***s been dead
- Dec 5, 2022
Wish drake fans would learn to praise his raps without acting like hes jay or lupe level lol he isnt and its fine cause he doesn’t have to be
- Dec 5, 2022
WESLEY PETTYNope lol
Drake got a great pen at his best but it’s not better than Jay or Nas.
kendrick d***rider
- Dec 5, 2022
Man outraps 21 and jack harlow and suddenly hes Drake Elec-Yarmulke lmao
- Dec 6, 2022·1 replyBRAVE
Side note: Churchill Downs is such a special moment in the Drake canon because it’s the antithesis of his usual rhyme scheme style. Throughout his verse, he’s playing with syllable count line by line to make the end rhymes fall around unexpected beats in the bars - while retaining a tight and uniform structure. It’s very Biggie-esque in its ethos
Pretty cool stuff 😎 🦉
Example
Cold hearts and heated floors
No parental guidance I just see divorce
Therapy sessions I’m in the waiting room reading Forbes
…abandonment issues I’m gettin treated for- Drake opens the flow here with one of his signature rhythms in the first line; however, it’s the following lines where things get weird. Usually with a line like that first one, we expect the follow-up line to be identical in length and bar placement. We’d actually expect this type of scheme with that flow specifically:
voca.ro/18rwRQq8J9HZ
Instead of the expected repeat of the flow in “cold hearts and heated floors”, Drake jumps right into a new flow with “no parental guidance I just see divorce” at the start of the second instrumental bar, then keeps the momentum going with “therapy sessions I’m in the waiting room reading Forbes”, which starts before the third bar and ends before the last beat of the bar. This gives two beats worth of breathing room before Drake ends this stanza with “abandonment issues Im getting treated for”; a line that is satisfying from a flow standpoint as it gives us a return to the flow pattern we expected from the opening line.
Throughout the verse, Drake is also placing silences in interesting spots. Too lazy to break that down tho lol
Dec 6, 2022I’ll never understand hating someone so much you can’t give them credit. Niggas in this thread clearly hate Drake so they are going to act like it’s asinine to say Drake and Hov isn’t a conversation. Imo Drake will never be better than Hov just off the teacher>student always. Same with Kanye.
But acting like it’s disrespectful and some sort of slight at Jay to say this is hilarious. I hated the f*** out of Kevin Garnett lmao he was a fake tough guy and his antics annoyed me. But I wouldn’t dare part my lips to say oh he wasn’t great because of personal distaste for him. Mfers gotta stop with that.
Drake gives us at least 2-3 verses a year where you can legitimately say oh this guy is one of if not the best in the game. If you can’t take your blinders off to see that then I don’t think you can debate anything. It’s a conversation you can have for sure. Acting like Drake’s catalog solely consists of bubblegum rap like God’s Plan or Hype to discredit him is stupid as f*** to me
Dec 6, 2022·1 replyThat title is taken out of context imo
- Dec 6, 2022HITSLIKEDIETCOKE
That title is taken out of context imo
I feel it’s the messenger too. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen people say Drake does the double entendres as well or almost as well as Hov himself. If anybody else said this it probably doesn’t go this way
- Dec 6, 2022Nozuka
Lmao Drake will never be lyrically the same as Hov
Drake is dope but his bars are simple ass s***
Hov got creative and cool bars 20+ into his career
Drake peaked 7 years ago and his stans pretend to like his newer weak s***
Imagine thinking people are pretending to like somebodys music
Shut your lame ass up lmao - Dec 6, 2022·1 reply
Nigga stans a mid singer like justin nozuka too you can’t make this s*** up
Dec 6, 2022NozukaLmao Drake will never be lyrically the same as Hov
Drake is dope but his bars are simple ass s***
Hov got creative and cool bars 20+ into his career
Drake peaked 7 years ago and his stans pretend to like his newer weak s***
WINTER 🌨️Dec 6, 2022NozukaLmao Drake will never be lyrically the same as Hov
Drake is dope but his bars are simple ass s***
Hov got creative and cool bars 20+ into his career
Drake peaked 7 years ago and his stans pretend to like his newer weak s***
dumb as f***
Dec 6, 2022I see no lies.
- Dec 6, 2022·2 repliesuser
No. You could argue it before/up thru IYRTITL but the increased frequency of him dropping came with each project not being as potent lyrically
This is a wild, dumb take because Drake has rapped better in the last 5 years than he did in the first 7 years of his mainstream career lmao.
- Dec 6, 2022
Enough
- Dec 6, 2022·edited·1 replyuser
That’s a different sentence from what I said
MCU movies are successful because they are decent for what their purpose is and marketed well but it’s some weird fanboy s*** to say that they’re good only because they’re successful which is how a lot of Drake fandom operates. Even he himself doesn’t really have subject matter outside of not fumbling a UMG 10 album Slave deal and the associated marketing and budget that comes with it/Prime Lil Wayne introduction into the rap game, which is probably where that mentality in drake fans stems from
Y'all really be feeling like Einstein bringing up this stupid ass MCU/McDonald's comparison lmao.
Dec 6, 2022I agree with AK on rapping at a technical level but the content and what he raps about is what sets Hov apart a lot of the time
- Dec 6, 2022user
Grown man ^
^
- Dec 6, 2022ExampleBRAVE
Cold hearts and heated floors
No parental guidance I just see divorce
Therapy sessions I’m in the waiting room reading Forbes
…abandonment issues I’m gettin treated for- Drake opens the flow here with one of his signature rhythms in the first line; however, it’s the following lines where things get weird. Usually with a line like that first one, we expect the follow-up line to be identical in length and bar placement. We’d actually expect this type of scheme with that flow specifically:
https://voca.ro/18rwRQq8J9HZ
Instead of the expected repeat of the flow in “cold hearts and heated floors”, Drake jumps right into a new flow with “no parental guidance I just see divorce” at the start of the second instrumental bar, then keeps the momentum going with “therapy sessions I’m in the waiting room reading Forbes”, which starts before the third bar and ends before the last beat of the bar. This gives two beats worth of breathing room before Drake ends this stanza with “abandonment issues Im getting treated for”; a line that is satisfying from a flow standpoint as it gives us a return to the flow pattern we expected from the opening line.
Throughout the verse, Drake is also placing silences in interesting spots. Too lazy to break that down tho lol
something about Drake people discount is that he's gotten better as a rapper over time and with age
- Drake opens the flow here with one of his signature rhythms in the first line; however, it’s the following lines where things get weird. Usually with a line like that first one, we expect the follow-up line to be identical in length and bar placement. We’d actually expect this type of scheme with that flow specifically:
- Dec 6, 2022·2 repliesthegreatdivine
This is a wild, dumb take because Drake has rapped better in the last 5 years than he did in the first 7 years of his mainstream career lmao.
I don’t know how to respond to this other than I think most people would agree that this just isn’t true man. Lol damn near simply from the fact that he puts out way more bullshit for the f*** of it songs now as opposed to his projects having more “serious” songs back then
