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  • Jan 4, 2024
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    Botney

    Noone is on top anymore. Everyone has his little group of favorite artists. There's no ruler. A Drake album gets forgotten in the public mind just as quickly as a Sampha album.

    Insane times were in fr
    need a thread on collective cultural consciousness and why we seem stuck as a culture but also trend accelerating like never before

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    Andre Jaquet

    this thing about wlr isnt true by the way. I see it even more irl, im in uni rn and not even in an american city people literally play carti and walk up like "u heard that new carti" i havent met a single person in my age group who doesnt know who he is or whats happening. Respectfully, it sounds like someone whos not outside telling others what happens outside. Unless your like an older guy in which case yeah obviouslt you dont hear about carti lol

    So why is the tour Carti is about to start in ten days struggling to sell tickets

  • Jan 4, 2024

    Im sorry I’ve never seen a talent have such an aura bro kanye posting carti dms like a bad b lmao This nigga is him man stop denying.

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    shaleirose

    So why is the tour Carti is about to start in ten days struggling to sell tickets

    because its his third tour off the same exact album have u forgotten that fact

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    Andre Jaquet

    this thing about wlr isnt true by the way. I see it even more irl, im in uni rn and not even in an american city people literally play carti and walk up like "u heard that new carti" i havent met a single person in my age group who doesnt know who he is or whats happening. Respectfully, it sounds like someone whos not outside telling others what happens outside. Unless your like an older guy in which case yeah obviouslt you dont hear about carti lol

    we can go anecdote for anecdote all day dawg, the point is that WLR was not bigger than CLB or DONDA, there is nothing that would possess someone to unironically say that other than stanning

    carti isn’t an underground artist and obviously people check for him, but he doesn’t get as much attention as kanye or drake, let alone anyone out of the big 3

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    shaleirose

    I don’t understand why it can’t just be “WLR is the most influential rap album of the decade”

    That’s a valid and reasonable claim to make

    Its the objective truth lol. Fein wouldnt exist without wlr.

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    Not gonna lie his new s*** going pretty hard

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    Andre Jaquet

    because its his third tour off the same exact album have u forgotten that fact

    Sure, but an artist like Drake can tour every single year without dropping another project and it would sell out every time.

    The point we’re making is that Carti IS big, he’s just not as big as the guys y’all are claiming he’s bigger than

  • Jan 4, 2024
    Sell

    Not gonna lie his new s*** going pretty hard

    Weve arrived

  • Jan 4, 2024
    AlfieNoah

    Its the objective truth lol. Fein wouldnt exist without wlr.

    Yes I agree. WLR is the most influential rap album of the 2020s.

    It is not the biggest.

  • Jan 4, 2024
    deleteduser579

    we can go anecdote for anecdote all day dawg, the point is that WLR was not bigger than CLB or DONDA, there is nothing that would possess someone to unironically say that other than stanning

    carti isn’t an underground artist and obviously people check for him, but he doesn’t get as much attention as kanye or drake, let alone anyone out of the big 3

    It wasn't at the time i dont think anybody even argued that.
    It lasted longer though. It had more impact thoug, and it had way more influence. Carti was smaller pre wlr. The hype and the release day was still a big deal.
    Yeah hes not at the commercial height of them yet. Because those guys have all age groups on lock and have been around for a min

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    Carti is the one rn and yall don’t know how to deal with your childhood hero’s Drake and Kanye bowing down to him

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    shaleirose

    Sure, but an artist like Drake can tour every single year without dropping another project and it would sell out every time.

    The point we’re making is that Carti IS big, he’s just not as big as the guys y’all are claiming he’s bigger than

    according to you am i just supposed to take that as the truth we havent seen drake do that
    i dont think hes drake level commercially who knows if he will be but lets not act like hes not running the game though
    when we say running the game we dont mean more white girls buying ur album we mean
    impact, influence, hype, dominance

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    Free YoungBoy

    Carti is the one rn and yall don’t know how to deal with your childhood hero’s Drake and Kanye bowing down to him

    lol chill lmao
    in terms of having a cultural foothold though yeah, I mean hes the new blood and THE guy of his gen rn
    as for ye, hes more irrelevant than ever hes on the fall off i do wonder if carti would lap him after this album. But who knows
    Drake is not really a needle pusher anymore, but his projects are still huge and hes still the biggest at the end of the day

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    Andre Jaquet

    according to you am i just supposed to take that as the truth we havent seen drake do that
    i dont think hes drake level commercially who knows if he will be but lets not act like hes not running the game though
    when we say running the game we dont mean more white girls buying ur album we mean
    impact, influence, hype, dominance

    Carti is the most influential rapper in the world right now.

    He is not the biggest.

    These can be two separate categories, they always have been

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    Andre Jaquet

    lol chill lmao
    in terms of having a cultural foothold though yeah, I mean hes the new blood and THE guy of his gen rn
    as for ye, hes more irrelevant than ever hes on the fall off i do wonder if carti would lap him after this album. But who knows
    Drake is not really a needle pusher anymore, but his projects are still huge and hes still the biggest at the end of the day

    He’s not more irrelevant than ever

  • Jan 4, 2024
    AlfieNoah

    Insane times were in fr
    need a thread on collective cultural consciousness and why we seem stuck as a culture but also trend accelerating like never before

    There were at least 50 threads made about "monoculture" last year. Refer to those

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    Andre Jaquet

    according to you am i just supposed to take that as the truth we havent seen drake do that
    i dont think hes drake level commercially who knows if he will be but lets not act like hes not running the game though
    when we say running the game we dont mean more white girls buying ur album we mean
    impact, influence, hype, dominance

    when we say 'running the game', what game we talkin bout? Carti has his niche but to say he's running hip hop feels a bit much. And wouldn't you say the majority of Carti's fanbase is really white boys that love to rage and s***? The same way you say that white girls buying your album doesn't mean you're running the game, I'd say the same for Carti and his core demographic.

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    foregone

    when we say 'running the game', what game we talkin bout? Carti has his niche but to say he's running hip hop feels a bit much. And wouldn't you say the majority of Carti's fanbase is really white boys that love to rage and s***? The same way you say that white girls buying your album doesn't mean you're running the game, I'd say the same for Carti and his core demographic.

    Nigga who tf is putting music rn that has more eyes and more excitement and exposure than him? Thats why hes running s***. MIND YOU, nothing has offically dropped on streaming platforms.

  • Jan 4, 2024
    foregone

    when we say 'running the game', what game we talkin bout? Carti has his niche but to say he's running hip hop feels a bit much. And wouldn't you say the majority of Carti's fanbase is really white boys that love to rage and s***? The same way you say that white girls buying your album doesn't mean you're running the game, I'd say the same for Carti and his core demographic.

    Also this!

    They use “white girls” as an insult but the majority of Carti’s fanbase is suburban white teenage boys

    When did that demographic become the pulse of hip-hop?

  • Jan 4, 2024
    AlfieNoah

    Nigga who tf is putting music rn that has more eyes and more excitement and exposure than him? Thats why hes running s***. MIND YOU, nothing has offically dropped on streaming platforms.

    I think Carti himself is aware of how niche and online his fanbase is, which is why he’s choosing to rollout his project this way

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    shaleirose

    Carti is the most influential rapper in the world right now.

    He is not the biggest.

    These can be two separate categories, they always have been

    i agree i dont think OP was trying to say hes the biggest but idk
    was never my point atleast

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    Yayo

    He’s not more irrelevant than ever

    this is the first year ever in his career where he didnt have a anything on billboard lol and vultures as a single didnt do that well

  • Jan 4, 2024
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    foregone

    when we say 'running the game', what game we talkin bout? Carti has his niche but to say he's running hip hop feels a bit much. And wouldn't you say the majority of Carti's fanbase is really white boys that love to rage and s***? The same way you say that white girls buying your album doesn't mean you're running the game, I'd say the same for Carti and his core demographic.

    the rap game. I wouldn't say that, i dont care about racial demographics of fanbases my point is he pushes s*** forward and has a lock on the game. Your purposefully being obtuse. My point is sales doesnt equal being the one thats just marketing

  • Jan 4, 2024
    John Mauve

    "No, I'm more outside than you are"

    didn’t imply that at all but jokes > facts

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