NoFace

2y

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eh, it depends. not as hard to grasp as you may think im not far removed from being at a university myself, WLR dropped right after i graduated but i was in school for Die Lit & the self titled. im sure he got the youth goin crazy but that doesn’t always translate to commercial success and if you don’t have that, its hard to be labeled the biggest. he’s most certainly influential and has his own lane. i think ktt be rushing to crown someone king that hasn’t reached their full potential yet

Valentine

2y

Might not even outsell Uzi

NoFace

2y

s*** good point, how much he did, 150k first week?

Andre Jaquet

2y

i agree, I dont think hes the biggest but i do think u dont have to be the bigges to be HIM you know? Also yeah true for you, but again you just barely missed the mark where your interacting with ppl who think of carti and think of vamp carti, not magnolia carti. You get what i mean? I think ur spot on though

NoFace

2y

oh yea fosho, you make a good point wit that cause iont even separate the two eras in my mind in that way but i can def see how vamp carti got the youth ina chokehold. would love to hear ur perspective on this typa s*** maybe a year or two after you graduate just to observe changes cause my music taste def changed after graduating. great discussion tho and good luck on the semester also

Andre Jaquet

2y

the rap game. I wouldn't say that, i dont care about racial demographics of fanbases my point is he pushes s*** forward and has a lock on the game. Your purposefully being obtuse. My point is sales doesnt equal being the one thats just marketing

Deezed

2y

majority of KTT still hasn't realized that rap is being phased out by top music execs since the starts of the 2020's, maybe by the end of the decade you'll peep it more but like every industry, theres ebbs and flows, business cycles, and right now pushing rap aint a priority anymore

whether its drake, kenny, carti, ye, cole, whoever is your fave, it will become evident to all fanbases in rap that the cultural dominance it once had, falsely propped up by the infinite marketing that was being pushed by the industry, is shifting. You'll feel it slowly, then suddenly, then you'll look back and say it was obvious

Free YoungBoy

2y

Drake hasn’t really been at the top or been that nigga for a while tbh. He’ll always have the numbers and the “normies” for lack of a better term but Carti been a better and more exciting artists than him for years atp.

Drake don’t move anything. Just follows trends and does his own generic version of it but he puts it on to the normies/mainstream. IDGAF is a perfect example of this

NoFace

2y

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eh, it depends. not as hard to grasp as you may think im not far removed from being at a university myself, WLR dropped right after i graduated but i was in school for Die Lit & the self titled. im sure he got the youth goin crazy but that doesn’t always translate to commercial success and if you don’t have that, its hard to be labeled the biggest. he’s most certainly influential and has his own lane. i think ktt be rushing to crown someone king that hasn’t reached their full potential yet

Deezed

2y

majority of KTT still hasn't realized that rap is being phased out by top music execs since the starts of the 2020's, maybe by the end of the decade you'll peep it more but like every industry, theres ebbs and flows, business cycles, and right now pushing rap aint a priority anymore

whether its drake, kenny, carti, ye, cole, whoever is your fave, it will become evident to all fanbases in rap that the cultural dominance it once had, falsely propped up by the infinite marketing that was being pushed by the industry, is shifting. You'll feel it slowly, then suddenly, then you'll look back and say it was obvious

Valentine

2y

Man shut the f*** up. Nobody gives a f*** what them music execs are doing to further pad their pockets. Rap still accounts for 59% of streaming and 51% of top streaming artists are rappers

Deezed

2y

you capping so hard its crazy, pull up sources for those numbers my g becuase any google search for 2023 top music streams will show the complete opposite

for example top spotify songs of 2023:

'Flowers' by Miley Cyrus
'Kill Bill' by SZA
'As It Was' by Harry Styles
'Seven (feat. Latto)' by Jung Kook
'Ella Baila Sola' by Eslabon Armado, Peso Pluma
'Cruel Summer' by Taylor Swift
'Creepin’ (with The Weeknd & 21 Savage)' by Metro Boomin, The Weeknd, 21 Savage
'Calm Down (with Selena Gomez)' by Rema, Selena Gomez
'Shakira: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53' by Bizarrap, Shakira
'Anti-Hero' by Taylor Swift

Top streamed artists of 2023 (per Forbes):

Taylor Swift
Bad Bunny
The Weeknd
Drake
Peso Pluma
Feid
Travis Scott
SZA
Karol G
Lana Del Rey

please show me how that "51%"

and you dont even wanna see the top consumed albums of 2023 cus it gets crazier

SPACEGHOSTPURRP

2y

Carti last 4 songs is him spoofing other people struggle rappin and it sounds horrible, but his popularity won’t allow people to admit it

Majority of the time he’s just mimicking another rapper

notbrock

2y

The thing that annoys me with Carti is how much credit he gets for so little effort

The producers should get more credit. Like I understand he’s the one that chose to work with them but it’s not like he’s the first. People were working with Pierre and F1lthy before Carti

Then I feel like his actual contributions are so little. It’s not like he’s saying anything interesting or writing anything clever or funny (Carti Stan’s will try and argue against this but refuse to provide a single example)

And I honestly don’t even hate his music but his fans are like people that only listen to Eminem, S*** just completely puts me off of him

notbrock

2y

The thing that annoys me with Carti is how much credit he gets for so little effort

The producers should get more credit. Like I understand he’s the one that chose to work with them but it’s not like he’s the first. People were working with Pierre and F1lthy before Carti

Then I feel like his actual contributions are so little. It’s not like he’s saying anything interesting or writing anything clever or funny (Carti Stan’s will try and argue against this but refuse to provide a single example)

And I honestly don’t even hate his music but his fans are like people that only listen to Eminem, S*** just completely puts me off of him

shaleirose

2y

You hear songs like FlatBed Freestyle, @ MEH, Stop Breathing, 2024, & Backr00ms and come to the conclusion that the producers are doing all of the work? What other rapper has showcased such a level of vocal agility as Carti has?

Free YoungBoy

2y

If you’re not a lyrical miracle ass rapper they say you’re carried by production. It’s such a lazy critique

shaleirose

2y

You hear songs like FlatBed Freestyle, @ MEH, Stop Breathing, 2024, & Backr00ms and come to the conclusion that the producers are doing all of the work? What other rapper has showcased such a level of vocal agility as Carti has?

notbrock

2y

“Vocal agility” lmao

Idk maybe artists that can actually f***ing rap

Y’all don’t appreciate anything vocally unless someone starts rapping like Yosemite Sam or some s***

Free YoungBoy

2y

If you’re not a lyrical miracle ass rapper they say you’re carried by production. It’s such a lazy critique

notbrock

2y

The thing that annoys me with Carti is how much credit he gets for so little effort

The producers should get more credit. Like I understand he’s the one that chose to work with them but it’s not like he’s the first. People were working with Pierre and F1lthy before Carti

Then I feel like his actual contributions are so little. It’s not like he’s saying anything interesting or writing anything clever or funny (Carti Stan’s will try and argue against this but refuse to provide a single example)

And I honestly don’t even hate his music but his fans are like people that only listen to Eminem, S*** just completely puts me off of him