Coming up with hooks the other day and Stop Breathing x Shake It Off compliment each other very well as source material to my surprise

But anyhow, scenes and discovery platforms are running the game rn not individuals

that’s actually pretty crazy when you think about it

someone made a thread comparing him to Wayne just the other day too

Better than WLR as well

Comparing who, Carti or Travis lol?

carti they can’t let the Wayne connections go every new harvest

Bro bringing up first week sales

It’s Travis Scott after a 5 year layoff with the whole music industry as a feature. Ofc he’s gonna do numbers.

The music was fine but lbr Carti is gonna drop something way fresher

lmao

Neither should be compared to Wayne but like Carti has literally 2 albums and doesn't even try to spit lol

He's cool and I enjoy his music, no shade, but I'm at least going to need a new album to proclaim this guy as running anything other than the cave he lives in. I think he could stick the landing with his new music too...but it needs to exist first

you can also do half of astro and utopia and a quarter of birds too

Well he's going to need to drop first lol

Again I do think he could stick the landing, nothing indicates that Carti fell off at all, but the music just doesn't physically exist at the moment lol

Let the man drop first. We've seen way bigger fumbles before

The four songs he just dropped can go head to head with anything on Utopia.

But you’re right we have seen bigger fumbles before

In 2021 if you said Kendrick Lamar ran hip hop people would laugh at you because he hadn't dropped in 4 years

Why is this any different for Carti lol. It wasn't any different for Travis until he stuck the landing either. Bro doesn't just get to be on top because he's popping on social media. Let's wait for some official releases and a full length

The loosies are p good though

They're good songs but they probably aren't going to even make his next album. They're legit throwaways, albeit very good ones lol

All I'm saying is, let's see the end product. We all thought WLR was going to be an entirely different project from what was actually dropped, and while that narrowly benefitted Carti because the project was good and innovative, he could throw up a brick this time around. Nothing makes me think he will...but I need the album to exist first lol.

Either way dude is not outpacing Drake or Travis in terms of popularity any time soon

Carti getting overrated like he's some god tier artist will never not be hilarious lmao.

It's weird too because a lot of people's fascination with Carti is that he's "elevating" trap music into being "real art" or "experimental", which is kind of a slap in the face to all the great trap artists that came before him who weren't tryna be "punk" or "experimental"

Like Gucci Mane is unironically a way better artist than Carti, as is Jeezy in his prime

Not to mention all the great trap artists now who aren't "experimental" nowadays that get viewed as like "substandard" music compared to Carti's "avant-garde" vocalizations that amount to little more than a glorified adlib track

He's been pushing that rock / punk influence since Die Lit which attracts white listeners. Not too surprising

Travis has a large white fanbase too but they are way less elitist

Why drake ?

Bait. Carti can't even do TML numbers and critically he does slightly worse than Drakes prime

Whether or not they appeal to white listeners doesn't matter much to me, and it's not my place to judge "how black" their music is. Such a judgment is probably racist in general but is definitely racist coming from someone who isn't black, such as myself.

But dude attracts people who don't like hip hop generally but really like his specific brand of hip hop. That doesn't really happen with Travis, a lot of his fanbase at least tries to explore the wider contemporary hip hop scene. Carti's core basically only listen to rage music and view every other type of hip hop, even cutting edge stuff, as being "washed" because it isn't rage music lol. It's super corny and gives off a bad vibe.

There's also no Carti project that will have the cultural longevity that Take Care has

Venn diagram between Carti and Travis fan bases would almost be a circle lol

U right about Rodeo but Utopia not better than any Carti album

I can meet you in the middle on this one

It wouldn't. Most Travis fans f*** with Carti but Carti fans don't really f*** with Travis like that and haven't since he popped with Astro

Eh

Way less women bumping Carti, way more losers bumping Carti

Both generally appeal most to suburban high school kids but Carti got that 4chan demographic nailed down