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  • Here we are, somebody was going to have to make this thread eventually. I'm writing this in light of all that's happening right now in America and hearken back to a time in 2015, one of the most racially provocative years of the last decade with the countless deaths of black mean at the gun end of the police, to a time in a certain diss track where the biggest artist in the world just very candidly drops a single line about police brutality that still peeves me to this day.

    "cops are killing people with their arms up, and your main focus is trying to harm us?" - Charged Up

    Really...one of the few times you want to speak up and use your voice to talk about topics like this is while..dissing another black man?

    "And I heard someone say something that stuck with me a lot
    'Bout how we need protection from those protectin' the block
    Nobody lookin' out for nobody
    Maybe we should try and help somebody or be somebody
    Instead of bein' somebody that makes the news, so everybody can Tweet about it
    And then they start to "R.I.P." about it
    And four weeks later nobody even speaks about it
    Damn, I just had to say my piece about it"

    Ok, Yes! Keep it going!! Go deeper than the surface level bars about police brutality, the hottest topic that year.

    ...

    "But they scared of the truth so back to me showin' out in public, that's a hotter subject"

    I'm sure there are more lyrics on this so please do not hesitate to post them or correct me on anything on this thread, I don't want stan wars. I want a very serious open dialogue on the topic.

    Now let's be clear, I do NOT need Drake or any other artist to speak for me and voice their opinions on what I personally feel attached to. But as a powerful black man with an even more powerful platform such as Drake's, it is almost your DUTY to speak up at times like this. And I don't just mean through heartfelt instagram messages: ....

    "I do not know the answer. But I believe things can change for the better. Open and honest dialogue is the first step."

    Ok, so...where is that open dialogue in your music? You don't know the answer? LET YOUR AUDIENCE KNOW HOW YOU FEEL THROUGH THE BIGGEST PLATFORM YOU HAVE. ACTUALLY USE YOUR VOICE TO SPEAK UP. Your music throughout the entirety of the past few years is in no way reflective of these politics beliefs you are so vehement to express on your instagram account. And for the record, I do hold other artists with big platforms accountable for this and would like for them to speak up just as much, but Drake does have the biggest platform out of arguably any other artists out right now.

    We need more than just you being behind the scenes for a short film on police brutality. Has Drake ever actually publicly acknowledged how his Jewish background lands him a huge advantage over other black artists??? Or how his beige skin tone leaves the support for him open on all sides? It's obvious he feels just a tad bit insecure on the topic

    "I used to get teased for being black
    And now I'm here and I'm not black enough"

    This kid was getting teased for being too black? Yea, try being a dark skinned black kid for a day

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    "Comaroff and Comaroff’s (2009) description of turning tribes into
    corporations parallels the process by which Drake capitalizes on his diverse background and creating
    an identity-based business. Rather than exoticizing himself to risk the process of being ‘othered’,
    Drake loosely identifies with different communities. Every difference is seen as an opportunity for
    marketing and consumer consumption. Branding illustrates a specific outlook on the world and
    dictates appropriate behaviours and values (Sheth, Maholtra & Arnould, 2011); therefore, Drake’s popularity is contingent on hybridity in which cultures become intellectual property"

    "This shapes his adoption into communities by representing multiple, culturally
    established norms in a non-hierarchical way. Using different forms of ethno marketing, Drake
    negotiates his identity by negating complete assimilation to any one culture, nationality, or race. He
    creates binaries between different forms of identity, in turn, instilling notions of cultural essentialism.
    Hence, the repertoire Drake establishes with each community remains liminal: he identifies with
    different communities while remaining marginalized."

    Pulled from this article here

    ir.lib.uwo.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1101&context=fimspub

  • May 28, 2020

    I agree he don’t be commenting enough on injustices against the black man in America enough for my liking

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    "Lets be clear i do not need any artist to speak out for me"

    Yet you only single out Drake
    All these pro black rappers only use the hood to shoot videos to make their record labels money and go back to their houses in the suburbs.

    Yall favorite pro black rappers dont even date black women lol but yall happy enough with the fakery as log as it makes you FEEL good.
    Drake done more in the communities In america and Overseas than all these other dudes.

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    "Lets be clear i do not need any artist to speak out for me"

    Yet you only single out Drake
    All these pro black rappers only use the hood to shoot videos to make their record labels money and go back to their houses in the suburbs.

    Yall favorite pro black rappers dont even date black women lol but yall happy enough with the fakery as log as it makes you FEEL good.
    Drake done more in the communities In america and Overseas than all these other dudes.

    I bet it has nothing to do with the fact that drake has such a big platform/influence that can make real change right

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    TL;DR

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    I’d be willing to bet he does s***/puts money up behind the scenes.

    I don’t think he should speak on s*** that goes down in the hood like Kendrick, Hov, etc do because he’s not from that environment

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    SHAQUILLE

    I’d be willing to bet he does s***/puts money up behind the scenes.

    I don’t think he should speak on s*** that goes down in the hood like Kendrick, Hov, etc do because he’s not from that environment

    Not the hood but he should definitely speak more on wider social issues

  • May 28, 2020
    HFM

    Not the hood but he should definitely speak more on wider social issues

    True

  • May 28, 2020
    SHAQUILLE

    I’d be willing to bet he does s***/puts money up behind the scenes.

    I don’t think he should speak on s*** that goes down in the hood like Kendrick, Hov, etc do because he’s not from that environment

    Biracial people are never black enough when they get disrespected , and are black when others conveniently need them to be.

  • May 28, 2020

    At he's not on that ASAP Rocky/Travis s***

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    Vivienne Westwood

    Here we are, somebody was going to have to make this thread eventually. I'm writing this in light of all that's happening right now in America and hearken back to a time in 2015, one of the most racially provocative years of the last decade with the countless deaths of black mean at the gun end of the police, to a time in a certain diss track where the biggest artist in the world just very candidly drops a single line about police brutality that still peeves me to this day.

    "cops are killing people with their arms up, and your main focus is trying to harm us?" - Charged Up

    Really...one of the few times you want to speak up and use your voice to talk about topics like this is while..dissing another black man?

    "And I heard someone say something that stuck with me a lot
    'Bout how we need protection from those protectin' the block
    Nobody lookin' out for nobody
    Maybe we should try and help somebody or be somebody
    Instead of bein' somebody that makes the news, so everybody can Tweet about it
    And then they start to "R.I.P." about it
    And four weeks later nobody even speaks about it
    Damn, I just had to say my piece about it"

    Ok, Yes! Keep it going!! Go deeper than the surface level bars about police brutality, the hottest topic that year.

    ...

    "But they scared of the truth so back to me showin' out in public, that's a hotter subject"

    I'm sure there are more lyrics on this so please do not hesitate to post them or correct me on anything on this thread, I don't want stan wars. I want a very serious open dialogue on the topic.

    Now let's be clear, I do NOT need Drake or any other artist to speak for me and voice their opinions on what I personally feel attached to. But as a powerful black man with an even more powerful platform such as Drake's, it is almost your DUTY to speak up at times like this. And I don't just mean through heartfelt instagram messages: ....

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BHim8QWjFTx/?utm_source=ig_embed

    "I do not know the answer. But I believe things can change for the better. Open and honest dialogue is the first step."

    Ok, so...where is that open dialogue in your music? You don't know the answer? LET YOUR AUDIENCE KNOW HOW YOU FEEL THROUGH THE BIGGEST PLATFORM YOU HAVE. ACTUALLY USE YOUR VOICE TO SPEAK UP. Your music throughout the entirety of the past few years is in no way reflective of these politics beliefs you are so vehement to express on your instagram account. And for the record, I do hold other artists with big platforms accountable for this and would like for them to speak up just as much, but Drake does have the biggest platform out of arguably any other artists out right now.

    https://twitter.com/Drake/status/1045401485432033282

    We need more than just you being behind the scenes for a short film on police brutality. Has Drake ever actually publicly acknowledged how his Jewish background lands him a huge advantage over other black artists??? Or how his beige skin tone leaves the support for him open on all sides? It's obvious he feels just a tad bit insecure on the topic

    "I used to get teased for being black
    And now I'm here and I'm not black enough"

    This kid was getting teased for being too black? Yea, try being a dark skinned black kid for a day

    What do you think about this?

    45:15

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    Can the mods not just subject this thread to a specific sxn where the conversation is likely to be one sided, it's a bigger topic than the one artist I chose to highlight @S @Electric @Nujabes @Adrian @yesac @DonJulio @Pushin

  • May 28, 2020

    I see what your saying but I don’t think any artist should be required to use their platform for anything.

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    Vivienne Westwood

    Can the mods not just subject this thread to a specific sxn where the conversation is likely to be one sided, it's a bigger topic than the one artist I chose to highlight @​S @Electric @Nujabes @Adrian @yesac @DonJulio @Pushin

    don't make it about one artist then, if you want to solely focus on Drake then it should be in the Drake section

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    Vivienne Westwood

    Can the mods not just subject this thread to a specific sxn where the conversation is likely to be one sided, it's a bigger topic than the one artist I chose to highlight @​S @Electric @Nujabes @Adrian @yesac @DonJulio @Pushin

    If it’s bigger than one artist, why choose to focus just on Drake?

    Oh... You want it open to everyone so they can just focus on Drake and s*** on him

  • May 28, 2020
    Vietbrah

    What do you think about this?

    45:15

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmsasEoupO4&

    Its an interesting perspective and Im grateful for what he says and does behind the scenes, but I still want him to do and say more in the music.

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    DJMCC93

    If it’s bigger than one artist, why choose to focus just on Drake?

    Oh... You want it open to everyone so they can just focus on Drake and s*** on him

    I want more perspectives than just Drake fans maybe, that could also be a possibility

  • May 28, 2020

    This... again?

  • May 28, 2020
    Vivienne Westwood

    I want more perspectives than just Drake fans maybe, that could also be a possibility

    Do you not care what Jay Z, Kendrick Lamar, Big Sean, Rick Ross, or Kanye West have to say about these things? What are they doing? Where are their statements?

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    Anyone who is waiting with baited breath for celebrities to post their annual social injustice IG post isn’t to be taken seriously, the death of black people isn’t the time for social media posturing and one uping each other.

    Apply this pressure to your local authorities, government, ensure you register to vote for the upcoming election, support governors who support the causes that will benefit you and your community.

    EDIT: This topic should stay in this szn because it was made about Drake. Jay and his NFL counterparts should be taking a hold of this situation but they’re mute and you are calling out Drake.

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    Sorry, but if drake talked about social issues he'd get killed because "what does a biracial jew from canada know about being black in america?"

    And anybody that denies this is lying to themselves.

  • May 28, 2020

    You out there doing anything OP?

  • May 28, 2020
    Drry

    Sorry, but if drake talked about social issues he'd get killed because "what does a biracial jew from canada know about being black in america?"

    And anybody that denies this is lying to themselves.

    This is facts

    Especially with the situation happening right now, the idiots would say he’s just jumping on the bandwagon

  • May 28, 2020
    Drry

    Sorry, but if drake talked about social issues he'd get killed because "what does a biracial jew from canada know about being black in america?"

    And anybody that denies this is lying to themselves.

    Actually I take back what I said ur right. He’s really damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.