i said let's blame all bad actors involved, let's hold people responsible

just saying ITS THE MUSIC is some backwards ass 1960's s***, same s*** they said about rock music when they called it the devil music bc niggas was making yt folk dance

i pray for my people 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 and yt ppl cosigning this 😭😭🫵🏾🫵🏾

It’s a bad comparison because in this case, the music is directly promoting and glorifying violence and murder. Rock music making people dance being “satanic” is a way different conclusion to draw.

heard some kids in flatbush doing the "notti" dance.

s*** hurt my soul.

yea thats fair but there's too many individuals to be blamed to say a genre of music was a mistakr, i feel like thats misplacing anger that could be better directed towards a system thats guided black kids towards this cycle of violence

im not at all interested in blaming creativity i'm sorry, call me wrong or not seeing the bigger picture, but i'd rather blame the label heads that fund this bullshit, the algorithms that feed off this negativity, etc

it just doesn't feel right

I completely agree with you. The music is definitely the smallest factor in all of this. The conditions that lead to the situations described in the music is what needs to actually be addressed.

Nuance: you can blame more than one entity.

The label CEOs are guilty and definitely don't help by pushing this out into the airwaves and the playlists thus creating a negative feedback loop to the musicians/niggas that are just trying to get rich that "this is the music I got to make in order to get rich."

The OGs not being OGs and instead of being like nah youngin this aint the way and instead exploit the get rich quick scheme and sign their own brand of #crashout before they die or end up in jail (e.g. Gucci Mane).

The audience that have a voyeuristic love for this music and even report on it as if it's some movie or video game and not the fact these are young black kids rapping about killing or killed other young black kids.

It just got to a point that type of content gets draining. Especially if you lived through it or know friends or family that have. Is it creativity or selling trauma to a fanbase?

That is all THE MUSIC and as a whole it is horrendous

Honestly the conversation is so complex it’s hard to even discuss unless you can have a real genuine discussion about it but this site ain’t really good at that

Lucian Grange is evil.

Lyor Cohen is evil.

I think Drill music is just gangsta rap for the new era

There’s no different between gangsta rap and drill

I read what you said perfectly fine.

You can’t sit here and say blame the people and not the music when the core of the music itself is the problem. What is it that makes drill stand out from regular trap? The authenticity of it. The entire genre doesn’t exist without the violence behind it. Trying to separate the music from the artist doesn’t work when the music is rooted in dissing dead people and mocking their murders. It’s not just some fictional storytelling like a lot of other rap is.

I grew up with good guidance and media literacy actually. But all the same I was a teenager. And like most teenagers I was influenced by stupid s*** for a period of time. but we can continue to be obtuse to how dumb and influenced the average teen can be and making backhanded comments if you want.

You absolutely can blame the music especially in this case .

Bruh you don't believe that

NWA & Dr.Dre were the forefathers of that movement and not a single person got shot or killed during their initial run.

Rappers in general weren't getting killed like that. That's why Biggie and 2pac was such a shock and hit to the industry.

Now that would be like a Tuesday twitch night cap with Akademiks