Jan 20, 2022·1 replyTime for this discussion was 5/7 years ago
Jan 20, 2022·1 reply
earthwalkaPeople call it trap because of the beat, not the content
RED FLAG
- Jan 20, 2022·1 replyrayray
RED FLAG
Call it what you want, that’s the fact of the matter.
Jan 20, 2022·1 replyi'm surprised this has gone 10 pages without a single mention of how EDM acts co-opted the sound and started mixing it with like dubstep and s***. WITHOUT EVEN CHANGING THE NAME/GENRE.
Jan 20, 2022
hot pancakesi’d say the biggest determining factor when classifying trap music is the subject matter. so this can be classified as such
sounds in music itself isn’t enough to be classified as trap. just because a particular snare/hi hat pattern is used or because there are drums from an 808 kit, that doesn’t make it trap
just because trap made those sounds popular they became known as “trap drums” but all songs that use them aren’t trap
I know but we're discussing straight up beat stylistics rn, i'm totally not saying Earl s*** is trap lol.
- Jan 20, 2022·1 replyearthwalka
Call it what you want, that’s the fact of the matter.
Ok C**
Jan 20, 2022
chasewalkedsick is also a trap beat, moreso than 2010 even. it literally has trap claps and snares
yeah, and if you had said Sick or Vision, I would've agreed with your point.
Just not 2010.
- Jan 20, 2022·1 replyrayray
Ok C**
Jan 20, 2022What's alphonse's @ on here
- Jan 20, 2022SIGH
Time for this discussion was 5/7 years ago
it is a welcome distraction from all the other bullshit going on on the site
- Jan 20, 2022·2 repliesearthwalka
People call it trap because of the beat, not the content
which is wrong (imo) because trap is mainly subject matter. 808 kit drums are second to that.
trap made the kit popular, but that doesn’t mean that every song that uses that kit is trap
- Jan 20, 2022
ayo, did yall niggas actually listen to like...his album or did yall just listen to 2010?
Jan 20, 2022·1 replyZ 326You still didn't say s*** about why exactly 2010 is not a trap style beat.
It might not be the most typical example but it obviously relies on trap beat stylistic
2010 ain’t even close to trap, why would he have to explain why to you?
Like can you not hear the beat?
- Jan 20, 2022hot pancakes
which is wrong (imo) because trap is mainly subject matter. 808 kit drums are second to that.
trap made the kit popular, but that doesn’t mean that every song that uses that kit is trap
Man link these niggas TI first album
Jan 20, 2022·1 replychasewalkedyou are just being dense at this point lol
Not really it’s literally hip hop
Why do you RYM hipsters need to classify f***ing everything so you know which hip hop is acceptable for your indie rock brains to listen to instead of just accepting that hip hop is a beautifully diverse genre
I mean I know why but
- Jan 20, 2022·3 replies
But also 808s been preceding 'trap music'. Miami bass music was full of that s***. You wouldn't call that trap because it wasn't the subject matter.
- Jan 20, 2022Innocent
2010 ain’t even close to trap, why would he have to explain why to you?
Like can you not hear the beat?
I don't think these niggas actually listened to Earl's album, just the 2010 single.
- Jan 20, 2022insertcoolnamehere
But also 808s been preceding 'trap music'. Miami bass music was full of that s***. You wouldn't call that trap because it wasn't the subject matter.
“Trap” has become an era defining word no longer about subject
- Jan 20, 2022·1 replyhot pancakes
which is wrong (imo) because trap is mainly subject matter. 808 kit drums are second to that.
trap made the kit popular, but that doesn’t mean that every song that uses that kit is trap
That’s true but that has become the terminology for it. Production is what defines this sub genre regardless whether we think it’s right or wrong. We are too far into the thick of it to change what it now means to the larger audience.
- Jan 20, 2022hot pancakes
i’d say the biggest determining factor when classifying trap music is the subject matter. so this can be classified as such
sounds in music itself isn’t enough to be classified as trap. just because a particular snare/hi hat pattern is used or because there are drums from an 808 kit, that doesn’t make it trap
just because trap made those sounds popular they became known as “trap drums” but all songs that use them aren’t trap
i don't think i really agree with the notion of a genre being defined exclusively by its content
like, take horrorcore. if a nigga is rapping about murdering mfs chopping up their bodies and s*** sure it's definitely that. but if you take that exact same sonic style and that nigga rapping about donating to relief funds or some s*** what do you call that?
i think it's the most reasonable approach is to consider the content just like the sonics to simply be an element of the genre. along with the artist's image and other elements
if a hardcore ride or die trap artist makes a love song but it's the exact same thing you usually get it doesn't instantly disqualify it from that genre, you know?
- Jan 20, 2022·2 repliesprovider 4 u
i'm surprised this has gone 10 pages without a single mention of how EDM acts co-opted the sound and started mixing it with like dubstep and s***. WITHOUT EVEN CHANGING THE NAME/GENRE.
that s*** slapped tho tbh i was rly banging rl grime. i still f***s wit baauer. i don't think it was a problem tho cause mfs just called it "edm trap"
- Jan 20, 2022chasewalked
that s*** slapped tho tbh i was rly banging rl grime. i still f***s wit baauer. i don't think it was a problem tho cause mfs just called it "edm trap"
i was 14 BANGING this s***
- Jan 20, 2022·2 repliesrayray
Bro wat????? Hip hop purist??? Hello lmaooo nigga are you WHITE? I’m a hip hop historian if anything and passionate about the history of music across all genres.
What you just said is the biggest delusional error to be made and just being a follower without doing your own research on the genreZ
“You can literally look at hip hop right now and see people associations trap with the sound”
You know why? Because people like you(which isn’t bad) don’t look at the history of s*** or research it. So if somebody popular or some popular blog starts saying it then majority will just run with it with no question to the point we get to conversations like these due to misinformation from cacs in the first place. I love all the new music nigga I’m a carti fanatic but I’m not gonna say he Doing trap music just cause he got the sound from it. What sense does that make?
Purist In the sense that you’re refusing to acknowledge changes.
It’s fine to be a historian, but words literally adopt new meanings all the time. To try to fight that is like trying to push a boulder up a mountain when the vast majority of people don’t even care that much.
Also I literally acknowledged servers times itt the history of trap lol. So how am I not looking at the history or not researching?
Also how many mainstream artists actually label themselves as trap? Most of the artists today in hip hop don’t even like placing labels on themselves lol. It’s usually the FANS who talk about if they trap or not and that’s based on the sound.
- Jan 20, 2022·1 replyearthwalka
That’s true but that has become the terminology for it. Production is what defines this sub genre regardless whether we think it’s right or wrong. We are too far into the thick of it to change what it now means to the larger audience.
Bro you let these critics control your mind it’s unbelievable
Jan 20, 2022·3 replieschasewalkedtechnically if you use an arpeggiator in a DAW on a hat sample you get a hi hat roll, so he's not wrong in using that word esp not as a producer himself
please show me a song with arpeggiated hats. He clearly don't know what an arpeggio is
