you called Piss On Your Grave trap. there is no further conversation to be had.

Earl is hooked on from when certain sound motifs got pried from their origins. A consequence of...cultural transfer. That's it

For pop culture obviously. That’s the argument lol

Notice any artists that definitely trap has this sort of glass ceiling in terms of marketability, their content is too alienating, like there’s some degenerate aspects to any real trappers lyrics, as opposed to mfs who’s simply do rendition adopting the sounds

i am sorry you take issue with calling things what they are i hope you figure that out for yourself ^_^

if it was obvious then why do we have 25 pages worth of debate over it

are you telling me that the modern trap sound didn’t become popular from Migos and Future? who then?

ignore him, he’s either trolling or has no idea what he’s talking about but still wants to voice an opinion

Trap Drum Programming

Travis Scott adding break beats to trap drum making it not trap all of a sudden is hilarious

He’s not trap like I’d say Lil Baby or something is but it’s definitely influenced

In real time his career only changed when he started f***ing with the Atlanta trap sound/artists he was kid Cudi cover artist lol

Dawg I meant in a mainstream way of trap being popularized. The average rap listener didn’t know what trap was before them and you can’t say that’s wrong.

basically what ive been mumbling and arguing about is this point here

even if it isn’t trap it usually is at least trap influenced

Like who?

Gucci, Jeezy, and TI were definitely very popular for at least 5 years before Future & Migos came onto the scene

trap-influenced is very different from trap

Travis was undeniably influenced by trap music

that does not mean his music itself can be considered trap

Cause a few niggas like me are defending the actual term and not letting white people recreate a definition. Honestly I’m waiting for a appointment and I’ve been killing time

it’s literally white people who don’t wanna admit they’ve collectively been incorrectly calling things “trap” tryna say “well since so many people were wrong that makes it right”

it’s unfortunate, the term is so devoid of meaning with how people use it nowadays.

na i didnt say that at all

Post trap the best solution to this thread fr

A guy like future for example who is huge, but the only time he did over 300k was with drake, a guy like thug who has insane influence but will never sell anywhere near as much as the artists he influences

Making that s*** viral if I ever become a music journalist

“party rap” is literally what they mean when they say “trap” might as well just call it that