Lucki and Earl inspire each other

Just the whites trying to justify gentrification. What else is new

There’s the trap sound and the trap content. Both comprise trap music and both are necessary for something to be trap music

This is mostly directed at white ppl who call Carti trap

ya he is

Tell me five things that have never been done

no one would say it's a trap song unless she was rapping on it tho

like there are plenty of singers that actually are from the trap who sing on trap beats but people don't call it trap music unless it's rap

so you're telling me wit a straight face that post malone and dababy make the same music

On the title track yeah, not on Vision

You think he make trap music? Lol

Huh lmao

Ok new question since y'all want to argue: if Earl is right (and I agree) then what is trap music? I think Travis "McFortnite" Scott exists in a grey area personally but he's more straight hip hop than trap.

Damn that one too lmao

Super blatant on there now that I’m listening

carti is alt rap

uzi is pop rap

That’s the thing it’s all a grey area now

The d*** dealer rappers set the trends and it gets watered down into the mainstream haze

Pretty much, but I'd consider a lot of regional genres straight trap as well (Memphis, Bay Area, etc )

Before your edit I was gonna say you kinda gotta add “trap” to the end of those if they exclusively executing these concepts with trap drums/programming

But I can also see how the line falls on whether or not we’ve accepted that trap/lex/Pierre/whoever you wanna pick from last ten years drums are just the drums of the music industry now lol

I'd call Memphis prototrap

This is like saying Aliens isn’t a sci-fi action film cause Blade Runner exists

Bro anything with the word "proto-" in it gonna sound gentrified as hell unless you're talking about Three Six Mafia era, and even that's just called trap now too.

no that's what i'm arguing against

the oldheads in this thread are angry that subgenres exist and that a term used to refer to a musical styling with multiple facets has evolved to just refer to part of those facets and not all of them

but subgenres exist, sci-fi/action exists simultaneously with several other subgenres of action

Is there a "non-gentrified" word you would prefer? Three 6 Mafia definitely is the link running into ATL's trap era

if it’s not about the trap or the act of trapping, it is not trap music

that is the only requirement for something to be called trap

y’all calling Travis Scott music trap is like calling Uncut Gems a comedy because Adam Sandler is the lead actor

I'm just saying most people would just call that trap or Memphis hip hop. Totally agree that Three Six was the door to a lot of the sound along with SGP and the like.