it’s also important to note that drake v intentionally got more international w his sound after 2015. Views and More Life reaching for dancehall and Caribbean sounds was a big part of what took him from big rapper to pop star status and i think branching out is also somewhat necessary after a certain point
100% agree,
How are you the most dominate artist in your country for so long and don’t have a single sound associated with you or you helped foster from others?
A coloniser, manipulator fake and fraud
Scam artist
Except he’s wrong and you don’t know s*** about Toronto.
Toronto doesn't have a sound it's just people copying bits and pieces from other cities or rapping with that high pitched accent
The birthplace of alternative rnb is literally Toronto and London
Of course genres and sounds don’t grow 100% organically. Do you think because Geto Boys started rapping on soul samples with breakbeats they get to claim that the east coast stole their sound? No, that’s just crazy talk.
I'm confused as to what the "Toronto sound" is. Because everything listed ITT just feels like cauldron of other places sounds
That “trap soul,” stuff is considered to have been birthed from Drake and PND namely
I know Drake is getting clowned but argue in good faith
The birthplace of alternative rnb is literally Toronto and London
Of course genres and sounds don’t grow 100% organically. Do you think because Geto Boys started rapping on soul samples with breakbeats they get to claim that the east coast stole their sound? No, that’s just crazy talk.
Don't lump Toronto with my city please
Don't lump Toronto with my city please
I’m not. I’m just saying both cities were the birthplace
Plus London isn’t s*** compared to us. Y’all barely relevant now that New York took y’all s*** have fun w Central Cee
I’m not. I’m just saying both cities were the birthplace
Plus London isn’t s*** compared to us. Y’all barely relevant now that New York took y’all s*** have fun w Central Cee
Keep telling yourself that sweetie
I’m not. I’m just saying both cities were the birthplace
Plus London isn’t s*** compared to us. Y’all barely relevant now that New York took y’all s*** have fun w Central Cee
London is way more relevant than Toronto in hip hop. Helped NYC with the sauce and Central Cee is on his way up.
What rappers does Toronto have other than Drake?
That “trap soul,” stuff is considered to have been birthed from Drake and PND namely
I know Drake is getting clowned but argue in good faith
Real real og pf all that is The Dream
I’m not. I’m just saying both cities were the birthplace
Plus London isn’t s*** compared to us. Y’all barely relevant now that New York took y’all s*** have fun w Central Cee
to be fair toronto is literally a fake new york
One dance and Controlla does not sound like Canadian music to the rest of the world that’s just crazy talk
Nope
Yep. He was singing that toxic almost rapper esque s*** over trap beats years before Weeknd and Drake did it
none of the origins of the music on these tracks are from Toronto
Dude said Blem is a strong example
y'all saying Toronto R&B and tbh I give PND and Weeknd more credit for that with Drake just adding on to the foundation they laid out. Still very important for that "sound" tho
also saying IYRTITL is some Toronto s*** is hilarious when the nigga who was writing on that album is literally just an Atlanta nigga 💀
Other way around drake and 40 laid the foundations and weeknd and party added on it, their own words.
There was non west coast niggas writing for 2001, doesn't make the album any less west coast cause the production sound of it is that. Same with iyrtitl, boi1da and 40 produced majority of it
London is way more relevant than Toronto in hip hop. Helped NYC with the sauce and Central Cee is on his way up.
What rappers does Toronto have other than Drake?
Good thing we’re not talking about rap only. Rnb exists as well.
Also if your top 2 is Drake and Weeknd it wipes that city, Im sorry
Also it’s cross influence. Chicago started drill, don’t try that
Even that rhythm stems from DJ L all London added were sliding 808s
to be fair toronto is literally a fake new york
to be fair it literally isn’t a fake new york
Good thing we’re not talking about rap only. Rnb exists as well.
Also if your top 2 is Drake and Weeknd it wipes that city, Im sorry
Also it’s cross influence. Chicago started drill, don’t try that
Even that rhythm stems from DJ L all London added were sliding 808s
Rnb wise London still better
to be fair it literally isn’t a fake new york
movies are shot there for a reason when they cant afford to do it in new york