Sep 14, 2022·1 reply
shaleiroseElton John has the third highest grossing tour this year, according to this guy’s logic that must mean Elton John is the 3rd most relevant musician in today’s world
If Elton John has the highest charting album of the year on Billboard then he absolutely is.
Do you know what a strawman argument is and why bringing up tours in an argument about billboard charts makes you stupid?
- Sep 14, 2022·1 replyshaleirose
The proof is I’m a hip hop fan and I engage in discussions / discourse regarding hip-hop almost every single day of my life.
4:44 still gets talked about here and there from time to time.
Eminem’s newer albums do not get discussed whatsoever.
And I’m not just talking about discourse that I myself engage in, I’m talking about the discourse that I see hip hop fans in general engage in on a daily basis.
You’re actually a fool if you think that Eminem is even half as culturally relevant as someone like Drake or Bad Bunny in 2022
Do you know what anecdotal means?
- Sep 14, 2022
WESLEYS THEORYEm doesn’t care about making the best music, but he wants to be the best rapper.
That sort of mindset is why people will never consider him the best. Because it doesn’t f***ing matter how many syllables he can rhyme or how many crazy flows he can do, none of that matters if the music itself is subpar, and a majority of his music has been for a long time.
The music gotta be as good as the rapping if he wants to be considered the best of them all.
This. This is also why I've never understood the "rapper" versus "artist" argument like rapping isn't an artform therefore making rappers artists.
Your job as a rapper (especially a mainstream one) is to make good/great rap music that is both enjoyable on a strictly listening perspective and is also engaging lyrically. That's why it's so tough being a mainstream rapper who is skillful and successful because you're basically forced to do a balancing act to achieve that.
That's why niggas who wanna be straight spitters stick to freestyles/battle rap where THAT is what's appreciated the most - the technicality and the lyricism of it all.
It's also worth stating that making enjoyable music is an art in an of itself. If it was that easy to do, people wouldn't have a tough time doing it consistently.
- Sep 14, 2022CrippledGod
Do you know what anecdotal means?
Do you not what “delusional” means because you truly are if you think Eminem is a culturally relevant artist in 2022
- Sep 14, 2022·1 replyshaleirose
The proof is I’m a hip hop fan and I engage in discussions / discourse regarding hip-hop almost every single day of my life.
4:44 still gets talked about here and there from time to time.
Eminem’s newer albums do not get discussed whatsoever.
And I’m not just talking about discourse that I myself engage in, I’m talking about the discourse that I see hip hop fans in general engage in on a daily basis.
You’re actually a fool if you think that Eminem is even half as culturally relevant as someone like Drake or Bad Bunny in 2022
My G, do you have comprehension issues?
Who said Eminem was as relevant as Bunny and Drake?
- Sep 14, 2022
This c***is a cornball
- Sep 14, 2022·1 replyCrippledGod
If Elton John has the highest charting album of the year on Billboard then he absolutely is.
Do you know what a strawman argument is and why bringing up tours in an argument about billboard charts makes you stupid?
Eminem only had the 9th highest first week sales of 2020, and he wasn’t even in the top 10 of highest streamed albums that year
So if your argument is sales and streams then you’re proving yourself wrong
- Sep 14, 2022·1 replyCrippledGod
My G, do you have comprehension issues?
Who said Eminem was as relevant as Bunny and Drake?
YOU implied it when you brought up their names
- Sep 14, 2022·1 replyshaleirose
YOU implied it when you brought up their names
Go back. Read it again.
- Sep 14, 2022shaleirose
I don’t even like CLB but there are still people discussing whether that album is good or bad to this day.
And after he dropped HN he had the whole hip hop world discussing house music and its’ roots in Black culture for months until Renaissance dropped and the conversation continued with that album.
CULTURAL RELEVANCE =/= NUMBERS
Not to turn this into a Drake discussion but people tend to dismiss Drake like all he's good for is numbers like he didn't become so consistent with putting up massive numbers because he makes good music.
Also, music people legitimately think is trash is never worth having debates over. That's just the truth. Drake is the one rapper who can drop an album people claim is the worst thing ever but give it a few months/years and people are still talking about it/changing their initial opinions about it. That's also a part of why he occupies the space he does.
- Sep 14, 2022·1 replyshaleirose
Eminem only had the 9th highest first week sales of 2020, and he wasn’t even in the top 10 of highest streamed albums that year
So if your argument is sales and streams then you’re proving yourself wrong
Go back, and read this again too.
Slowly.
- Sep 14, 2022·1 replyCrippledGod
Go back. Read it again.
I did, you implied it by bringing up their names
- Sep 14, 2022·1 replyCrippledGod
Go back, and read this again too.
Slowly.
You’re definitely white because no black person would be going this hard to prove Eminem’s cultural relevance in 2022
- Sep 14, 2022·1 replyCrippledGod
1. That's how most albums do on the charts if you're not Drake or Bad Bunny.
Do you think Jay Z albums spend months in the top 10? Nas?
Do you want us to compare their staying ppwer on the charts?
No, Eminem has charted on the Billboard 200 for more weeks than Jay Z and Nas combined. The difference is that they make way better/more engaging music than Eminem and it's not close. Eminem doing numbers doesn't take that away the fact that no one ever talks about his music beyond the first week and his music hasn't been engaging in decades.
- Sep 14, 2022
NUMBERS =/= RELEVANCE
- Sep 14, 2022shaleirose
I don’t even like CLB but there are still people discussing whether that album is good or bad to this day.
And after he dropped HN he had the whole hip hop world discussing house music and its’ roots in Black culture for months until Renaissance dropped and the conversation continued with that album.
CULTURAL RELEVANCE =/= NUMBERS
Nigga where?
Where were niggas discussing the roots of House music months after HN?
I'm on Twitter and 3 different rap forums and nobody was talking about HN after week 3
Plesse post links
- Sep 14, 2022
😳
- Sep 14, 2022shaleirose
I did, you implied it by bringing up their names
Why have I wasted my time arguing with you?
- Sep 14, 2022·1 replyshaleirose
You’re definitely white because no black person would be going this hard to prove Eminem’s cultural relevance in 2022
Yeah, deflect and try to change the subject.
- Sep 14, 2022·1 replythegreatdivine
No, Eminem has charted on the Billboard 200 for more weeks than Jay Z and Nas combined. The difference is that they make way better/more engaging music than Eminem and it's not close. Eminem doing numbers doesn't take that away the fact that no one ever talks about his music beyond the first week and his music hasn't been engaging in decades.
Shifting goal posts, G.
- Sep 14, 2022
Love you, Em!
- Sep 14, 2022·1 replyCrippledGod
Yeah, deflect and try to change the subject.
It’s not deflecting, it’s a very reasonable conclusion from the evidence I’ve been presented
- Sep 14, 2022·2 repliesshaleirose
It’s not deflecting, it’s a very reasonable conclusion from the evidence I’ve been presented
You're even more stupid than I thought if you think you can predict a person's race from their taste in music.
And I already thought you were too stupid to cross roads unassisted.
- Sep 14, 2022·1 reply
s/o @thegreatdivine though. GOAT poster except for their unfortunate dislike for Eminem.
- Sep 14, 2022
I'm going to go study to make up for the IQ points I lost arguing with KTT niggas.
